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Re: AW: AW: What is Riena about? (was AW: AW: [riena-dev] Ridgets)
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Hi Elias,
I looked at the code you pointed to. Thanks.
Although I may have missed something, it looks like the only dependency
org.eclipse.riena.ui.* bundles have on org.eclipse.riena.core are the
interfaces and abstract classes in org.eclipse.riena.core.marker package
(is that right?). If it is right, it sort of begs the question...why
not have the org.eclipse.riena.core.marker package interfaces/classes
outside of the core? (e.g. in org.eclipse.riena.ui.core or new
bundle). Then it would be possible, I think, to have the Riena UI work
be a fairly self-contained unit (org.eclipse.riena.ui.* bundles).
But I guess after looking at it only briefly, there's another thing I
don't understand about the Riena marker concept in the core: why are
interfaces like IMarkable, IMarker, notification, etc., needed when
there is the Platform/workbench resource markers?
http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/concepts/concepts-11.htm
http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_resources_markers.html
Is there something about Riena's concept of markers that is not possible
with the Platform's IMarker's?
Sorry if these questions seem naive, but that's a part of building
community :).
Thanks,
Scott
Volanakis, Elias wrote:
Hi Scott,
the "appropriateness" question is better answered by Riena's initiators.
For an example on Ridgets see org.eclipse.riena.example.client. The classes SystemPropertiesView and SystemPropertiesViewController are a reasonably realistic example showing how to work with ridgets. In the view you create SWT controls normally and register them with Riena (addUIControl(...)). In the controller you have access to the corresponding ridgets (they will be injected). There are further examples in the packages of this project.
To play around with the examples start the client using the launch configuration in the project. Switch to the "Playground" tab and open the "Playground" category (left hand side). The whole client is pretty much a sandbox for playing around, so you can use it to see what is currently available.
Kind regards,
Elias.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: riena-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:riena-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Scott Lewis
Gesendet: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 15:30
An: Riena Developers list
Betreff: Re: AW: What is Riena about? (was AW: AW: [riena-dev] Ridgets)
Hi Elias,
Thanks for the pointers, but I've already read them. The question isn't
whether the goals are 'new' or not...but rather whether they are
appropriate given the other things that are going on (e4, Platform UI, etc).
And for understanding of Ridgets...can't anyone (please) point me to
some code in Riena that shows some of what's being discussed here?
Rather than a presentation or proposal/paper...as I've got the committed
source code in my workspace and I prefer to examine API rather than read
about it.
Thanks,
Scott
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