Bug 433868 - Improve appearance of "window icons" based on new Logo
Summary: Improve appearance of "window icons" based on new Logo
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: Platform
Classification: Eclipse Project
Component: Releng (show other bugs)
Version: 4.4   Edit
Hardware: PC Linux
: P2 enhancement (vote)
Target Milestone: ---   Edit
Assignee: Platform-Releng-Inbox CLA
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Depends on: 433139
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Reported: 2014-04-30 12:03 EDT by David Williams CLA
Modified: 2016-08-11 15:25 EDT (History)
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Screenshot of Windows taskbar. (11.78 KB, image/png)
2014-05-05 11:43 EDT, Wojciech Sudol CLA
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window image 16x16 at 100% DPI (96 dpi). (82.26 KB, image/png)
2014-05-06 04:47 EDT, David Williams CLA
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16x16 at 125% DPI (95.76 KB, image/png)
2014-05-06 04:47 EDT, David Williams CLA
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16x16 at 150% DPI. (51.30 KB, image/png)
2014-05-06 04:48 EDT, David Williams CLA
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Description David Williams CLA 2014-04-30 12:03:58 EDT
I'm opening this as a "continuation" of work started in bug 426260 as mentioned in comment 107, as well as things mentioned in bugs such as bug 432791, bug 433139, and bug 433097. 

At this point, I think we are at the point of "polish" (i.e. we could ship with what we have) but admit there are aspects of the icons that don't look as good as previous versions. 

After working on bug 429521, I think I even learned what might be one "general problem". The logo at www.eclipse.org/artwork actually IS a pretty good SVG file. 
As such it should be able to be "rescaled" fairly well, and maintain "variable degrees" of transparency for PNG files ... but, I think the PNG files originally delivered to us were more like GIF files, one level of transparency, and some attempt at anti aliasing. While many of the "small" icons would still need a lot of "hand editing" to look good, I'm almost wondering if some of the larger ones could be improved by "reexport" from SVG and trying to do it right so it maintains variable transparency. This would help the icon to look good, no matter what the "background" or theme was. 

Plus, to be honest, I think the current family of Window Icons look pretty "flat", and don't have that "rounded marble" look that previous versions have had. (This mostly effect larger ones, say 48x48 and above ... there's only so much you can do with 16x16 pixels. 

Point is, this enhancement entry will be the place to discuss, compare and contrast, and propose any new "sets" of icons ... not just do minimum fixes of current problems -- though, we might decide that's all we can do -- there MIGHT be more that can be done, without, of course, invalidating the "logo look" or making any published documents or screen shots appear invalid. 

There might be some investigation of this for RC1 ... but, I also think legitimate to improve icons in SR1 -- as long as the basic look is the same.
Comment 1 Wojciech Sudol CLA 2014-05-05 11:43:53 EDT
Created attachment 242719 [details]
Screenshot of Windows taskbar.

I am not sure if this is a proper bug for the issue, but the attached screenshot presents how the eclipse (M7 build) icon looks in the taskbar in my environment (Windows 7, default theme, small taskbar icons, 1280x1024, 120dpi). Is it going to be corrected in Luna?
Comment 2 David Williams CLA 2014-05-05 14:14:57 EDT
(In reply to Wojciech Sudol from comment #1)
> Created attachment 242719 [details]
> Screenshot of Windows taskbar.
> 
> I am not sure if this is a proper bug for the issue, but the attached
> screenshot presents how the eclipse (M7 build) icon looks in the taskbar in
> my environment (Windows 7, default theme, small taskbar icons, 1280x1024,
> 120dpi). Is it going to be corrected in Luna?

It is the correct bug. We'll likely improve in Luna ... are you volunteering? :) 

I am curious ... and just curious ... what do you "get" by running with DPI set so high and icons set to "small"? Are you after large text, but small icons (on a regular basis)? Or ... were you just testing various settings?
Comment 3 Wojciech Sudol CLA 2014-05-05 15:48:02 EDT
I have high resolution screen in my notebook and low resolution external monitor. My unusual screen settings are a result of trying to have similar size of elements on both screens when they are next to each other.
Comment 4 David Williams CLA 2014-05-06 00:47:04 EDT
(In reply to Wojciech Sudol from comment #3)
> I have high resolution screen in my notebook and low resolution external
> monitor. My unusual screen settings are a result of trying to have similar
> size of elements on both screens when they are next to each other.

Thanks, I think that (i.e. low, or mixed resolutions) is what explains why the OS is choosing to display the 16x16 icon in the task bar. A helpful example. (Not sure I can replicate it :) ... but, helpful none the less).
Comment 5 David Williams CLA 2014-05-06 04:46:12 EDT
(In reply to David Williams from comment #4)
> (In reply to Wojciech Sudol from comment #3)
> > I have high resolution screen in my notebook and low resolution external
> > monitor. My unusual screen settings are a result of trying to have similar
> > size of elements on both screens when they are next to each other.
> 
> Thanks, I think that (i.e. low, or mixed resolutions) is what explains why
> the OS is choosing to display the 16x16 icon in the task bar. A helpful
> example. (Not sure I can replicate it :) ... but, helpful none the less).

Well, I take that back. I can replicate it ... on my (single) display at 125% DPI, whereas 100% and 150% look pretty decent. I show some 3 pictures, and the main point of them is that "Eclipse" does a better job of "drawing" the 16x16 bit icon at those varying resolutions, and that it is the 16x16 "png image" that is being used on the task bar by Windows OS .. I would have thought it would have taken it from the ICO resource ... but to get to the bottom of it made some "custom" icons with "16", "32", etc., on them, in different colors, so I could figure out where they were coming from. It appears that with "small icons" selected for task bar, it always uses 16x16 and simply tries to "scale it" ... with varying degrees of success.
Comment 6 David Williams CLA 2014-05-06 04:47:01 EDT
Created attachment 242743 [details]
window image 16x16 at 100% DPI (96 dpi).
Comment 7 David Williams CLA 2014-05-06 04:47:29 EDT
Created attachment 242744 [details]
16x16 at 125% DPI
Comment 8 David Williams CLA 2014-05-06 04:48:11 EDT
Created attachment 242745 [details]
16x16 at 150% DPI.
Comment 9 David Williams CLA 2016-08-11 15:25:58 EDT
Doing a mass "reset to default assignee" of 52 bugs to help make clear it will (very likely) not be me working on things I had previously planned to work on. I hope this will help prevent the bugs from "getting lost" in other people's queries. Feel free to "take" a bug if appropriate.