Re: [epp-dev] EPP packages containing Incubating projects (IMPORTANT)

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> * Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers
>   @ David: No projects in incubation? Correct?

Correct.

From:	Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc:	Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Janet Campbell'" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	06/13/2008 04:45 AM
Subject:	Re: [epp-dev] EPP packages containing Incubating projects (IMPORTANT)

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The long discussion about the naming and sort order
of the packages on bug 
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=224729
reminds me of an old 
issue: Including content from projects in incubation phase.

When I wrote that email below (in February), it was based on the assumption
that *all* bits included in the Ganymede packages are out of incubation,
but 
as of today I am not sure any more.

* Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers
  @ David: No projects in incubation? Correct?

* Eclipse Classic - fake package (Eclipse SDK)

* Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers = OKAY

* Eclipse Modeling Tools
  @ Rich: I assume there are some projects still in incubation?

* Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
  @ Mik: No projects in incubation? Correct?

* Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers
  @ Doug: No projects in incubation? Correct? org.eclipse.cdt.mylyn?

* Eclipse IDE for Java and Report Developers
  @ Xiaoying: No projects in incubation? Correct?

@Bjorn, Janet: *If* there are features from a project in incubation phase
included in a package, what do we have to do? Change the file name of the
package, include it in the description at the web site, ... what else?


Thanks,
Markus



On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Markus Knauer wrote:
> > (1) Do any of the existing packages contain projects that are
incubating
> > or are shipping incubating code?
>
> Please find a list of all currently included features at the end of
this
> email.
> Status: IMHO there are no features from incubation projects in the
projects
> with one exception: The EPP UDC code is in incubation, but only included
in
> the Ganymede packages.
>
> > (2) If so, when can you change the package build system to include
the
> > correct incubation phrase and to have the package name itself
be "JavaEE
> > (Incubation)" (or whatever).
>
> Europa Packages: They do not contain features from projects in incubation
> phase. => No action required.
>
> Ganymede Packages: These are 'milestone' or nightly builds. They contain
at
> least something like "-M4-" in their name. AFAIK we can
have as much
> milestone builds as we need, but we have to ensure that everything
inside
> is out of incubation until the release. => Do we need to change
something
> until then?
>
> Other/future packages: Projects in the packages *should* have a version
> >=1.0 unless there are good reasons to include something newer.
If this is
> the case we should start describing naming conventions.
>
> Markus
>
>
> %<
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "org.eclipse.cdt"
> "org.eclipse.cvs"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.designer.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.doc.user"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.apache.derby.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.hsqldb.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.ibm.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.jdbc.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.msft.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.mysql.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.oda.designer.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.oda.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.oracle.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.postgresql.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.sybase.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.modelbase.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.data.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.ddl.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.parsers.feature"
> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.results.feature"
> "org.eclipse.emf"
> "org.eclipse.emf.common"
> "org.eclipse.emf.common.ui"
> "org.eclipse.emf.ecore"
> "org.eclipse.emf.ecore.edit"
> "org.eclipse.emf.ecore.sdo"
> "org.eclipse.emf.edit"
> "org.eclipse.emf.edit.ui"
> "org.eclipse.epp.usagedata.feature"
> "org.eclipse.gef"
> "org.eclipse.jdt"
> "org.eclipse.jpt.feature"
> "org.eclipse.jst"
> "org.eclipse.mylyn.bugzilla_feature"
> "org.eclipse.mylyn.context_feature"
> "org.eclipse.mylyn_feature"
> "org.eclipse.mylyn.ide_feature"
> "org.eclipse.mylyn.java_feature"
> "org.eclipse.mylyn.pde_feature"
> "org.eclipse.pde"
> "org.eclipse.platform"
> "org.eclipse.sdk"
> "org.eclipse.wst"
> "org.eclipse.wst.common_ui.feature"
> "org.eclipse.wst.xml_ui.feature"
> "org.eclipse.xsd"
> "org.eclipse.xsd.edit"
> %<
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Sunday 03 February 2008, David M Williams wrote:
> > The JEE packages does not, and has no plans to (since even an
incubating
> > project must have a pre 1.0 release review to be included ...
right?).
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > P.S. I'm just responding so you'll know others do subscribe to
this list
> >
> > :)
> >
> > From:
> > Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To:
> > epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc:
> > Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"'Janet
> > Campbell'" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date:
> > 02/01/2008 05:39 PM
> > Subject:
> > [epp-dev] EPP packages containing Incubating projects
> >
> >
> >
> > Packagers,
> > Janet has alerted me to something I forgot about the packages:
because
> > they are a "distribution" by the Eclipse Foundation,
we/you need to make
> > sure that if the packages containing any Incubation Phase projects,
the
> > packages are correctly labeled as such. The standard for labeling
is
> > currently described in the incubation phase guidelines and includes
> > having the file names contain "-incubation-".  So,
two questions:
> >
> > (1) Do any of the existing packages contain projects that are
incubating
> > or are shipping incubating code?
> > (2) If so, when can you change the package build system to include
the
> > correct incubation phrase and to have the package name itself
be "JavaEE
> > (Incubation)" (or whatever).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Bjorn
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject:
> > RE: FW: [eclipse.org-planning-council] EclipseCon and Ganymede
M5
> > Date:
> > Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:50:58 -0500
> > From:
> > Janet Campbell <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Organization:
> > Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
> > To:
> > 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson' <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > References:
> >
> >
> >
> > At a minimum, we should try to be consistent with the naming
requirements
> > for incubating projects.  Including a notice file in the
root directory
> > indicating the status of the distribution would also help.  What
will the
> > person accessing the file be presented with?
> >
> > Janet Campbell
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