Re: [epp-dev] EPP packages containing Incubating projects (IMPORTANT)

[Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Okay, that means that the Modeling package is the only one that contains 
projects in incubation phase. If you agree to remove them from the package, 
then this would be the easiest solution. Otherwise we have to discuss it with 
Eclipse Legal.

Rich, what do you think?

Markus



On Friday 13 June 2008, Richard Gronback wrote:
> Yes, there are some incubating projects/components in the Modeling package.
> I can remove them easily enough, if necessary.  In fact, I'd rather not
> have the package labeled with 'incubation'.
>
> Below are those in incubation:
>
> - JET
> - Ecore Tools
> - Compare
> - Search
> - Mint
>
> The following are graduating with this release:
>
> - M2M QVTO
> - CDO
> - Teneo
>
> Best,
> Rich
>
> On 6/13/08 4:45 AM, "Markus Knauer" <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > The long discussion about the naming and sort order of the packages on
> > bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=224729 reminds me of an
> > old issue: Including content from projects in incubation phase.
> >
> > When I wrote that email below (in February), it was based on the
> > assumption that *all* bits included in the Ganymede packages are out of
> > incubation, but as of today I am not sure any more.
> >
> > * Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers
> >   @ David: No projects in incubation? Correct?
> >
> > * Eclipse Classic - fake package (Eclipse SDK)
> >
> > * Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers = OKAY
> >
> > * Eclipse Modeling Tools
> >   @ Rich: I assume there are some projects still in incubation?
> >
> > * Eclipse IDE for Java Developers
> >   @ Mik: No projects in incubation? Correct?
> >
> > * Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers
> >   @ Doug: No projects in incubation? Correct? org.eclipse.cdt.mylyn?
> >
> > * Eclipse IDE for Java and Report Developers
> >   @ Xiaoying: No projects in incubation? Correct?
> >
> > @Bjorn, Janet: *If* there are features from a project in incubation phase
> > included in a package, what do we have to do? Change the file name of the
> > package, include it in the description at the web site, ... what else?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Markus
> >
> > On Wednesday 06 February 2008, Markus Knauer wrote:
> >>> (1) Do any of the existing packages contain projects that are
> >>> incubating or are shipping incubating code?
> >>
> >> Please find a list of all currently included features at the end of this
> >> email.
> >> Status: IMHO there are no features from incubation projects in the
> >> projects with one exception: The EPP UDC code is in incubation, but only
> >> included in the Ganymede packages.
> >>
> >>> (2) If so, when can you change the package build system to include the
> >>> correct incubation phrase and to have the package name itself be
> >>> "JavaEE (Incubation)" (or whatever).
> >>
> >> Europa Packages: They do not contain features from projects in
> >> incubation phase. => No action required.
> >>
> >> Ganymede Packages: These are 'milestone' or nightly builds. They contain
> >> at least something like "-M4-" in their name. AFAIK we can have as much
> >> milestone builds as we need, but we have to ensure that everything
> >> inside is out of incubation until the release. => Do we need to change
> >> something until then?
> >>
> >> Other/future packages: Projects in the packages *should* have a version
> >>
> >>> =1.0 unless there are good reasons to include something newer. If this
> >>> is
> >>
> >> the case we should start describing naming conventions.
> >>
> >> Markus
> >>
> >>
> >> %<
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>-- "org.eclipse.cdt"
> >> "org.eclipse.cvs"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.designer.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.doc.user"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.apache.derby.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.hsqldb.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.ibm.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.jdbc.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.msft.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.mysql.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.oda.designer.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.oda.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.oracle.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.postgresql.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.enablement.sybase.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.modelbase.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.data.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.ddl.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.parsers.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.datatools.sqldevtools.results.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.common"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.common.ui"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.ecore"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.ecore.edit"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.ecore.sdo"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.edit"
> >> "org.eclipse.emf.edit.ui"
> >> "org.eclipse.epp.usagedata.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.gef"
> >> "org.eclipse.jdt"
> >> "org.eclipse.jpt.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.jst"
> >> "org.eclipse.mylyn.bugzilla_feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.mylyn.context_feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.mylyn_feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.mylyn.ide_feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.mylyn.java_feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.mylyn.pde_feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.pde"
> >> "org.eclipse.platform"
> >> "org.eclipse.sdk"
> >> "org.eclipse.wst"
> >> "org.eclipse.wst.common_ui.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.wst.xml_ui.feature"
> >> "org.eclipse.xsd"
> >> "org.eclipse.xsd.edit"
> >> %<
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>--
> >>
> >> On Sunday 03 February 2008, David M Williams wrote:
> >>> The JEE packages does not, and has no plans to (since even an
> >>> incubating project must have a pre 1.0 release review to be included
> >>> ... right?).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> P.S. I'm just responding so you'll know others do subscribe to this
> >>> list
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>> From:
> >>> Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To:
> >>> epp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Cc:
> >>> Bjorn Freeman-Benson <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Janet
> >>> Campbell'" <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Date:
> >>> 02/01/2008 05:39 PM
> >>> Subject:
> >>> [epp-dev] EPP packages containing Incubating projects
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Packagers,
> >>> Janet has alerted me to something I forgot about the packages: because
> >>> they are a "distribution" by the Eclipse Foundation, we/you need to
> >>> make sure that if the packages containing any Incubation Phase
> >>> projects, the packages are correctly labeled as such. The standard for
> >>> labeling is currently described in the incubation phase guidelines and
> >>> includes having the file names contain "-incubation-".  So, two
> >>> questions:
> >>>
> >>> (1) Do any of the existing packages contain projects that are
> >>> incubating or are shipping incubating code?
> >>> (2) If so, when can you change the package build system to include the
> >>> correct incubation phrase and to have the package name itself be
> >>> "JavaEE (Incubation)" (or whatever).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> - Bjorn
> >>>
> >>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>> Subject:
> >>> RE: FW: [eclipse.org-planning-council] EclipseCon and Ganymede M5
> >>> Date:
> >>> Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:50:58 -0500
> >>> From:
> >>> Janet Campbell <janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Organization:
> >>> Eclipse Foundation, Inc.
> >>> To:
> >>> 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson' <bjorn.freeman-benson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> References:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At a minimum, we should try to be consistent with the naming
> >>> requirements for incubating projects.  Including a notice file in the
> >>> root directory indicating the status of the distribution would also
> >>> help.  What will the person accessing the file be presented with?
> >>>
> >>> Janet Campbell