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Re: [birt-dev] New BIRT Logo

Hi Scott,

 

I tried you link yesterday morning and saw the same result as Wim did. So my idea was to place my logo in the gallery. Therefore I applied be 99Design as it is a gallery managed be 99Designs. A bug on 99Designs enrolling webpage hinder me to continue and I called the support for support. A very friendly woman took my call and solved the problem during the day. So far so good. Once the enrolling issue solved I ran into the next problem, which was applying for being a designer at 99Desings allowing me to post my logo. I called again and the same friendly woman explained me how 99Designs works.

 

I concluded for myself two things:

 

1.)    I have no chance to submit my logo as I will not apply as a “fulltime” designer. My task are other ones.

2.)    I will not support this kind of business model and therefore I will not support 99Designs, as I explained in my last mail.

 

Of course it’s up to everybody’s conscience to decide if they want persons to be exploited. For my part I stand for fair business. 99Designs would be acceptable if all participating designers would get their share in Euro.

 

And to be clear I don’t blame you, I blame 99Designs.

 

To give you an example: I currently have a petition in the German Bundestag to close a loophole in the law regarding the duration of short-time allowance during the pandemic. I think it's good to take care of the weaker members of society. I am a political person and I stand by that.

 

Due to my experience with 99Designs I will write a mail to the German Bundestag and ask them to check if the business model of 99Designs complies with our German laws. Uber in many German towns is therefore forbidden. Maybe the American and European feelings are in this point different. Eclipse moved to Europe…

 

Besides all this the question I asked was: how can my logo be part of your election if it cannot be posted. But if I understand your last mail correctly the drafts will be posted on web page which is not 99Designs’ but managed by you.

 

Best

Christophe

 

 

 

Von: birt-dev [mailto:birt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Scott Rosenbaum
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. April 2021 17:10
An: For developers on the BIRT project
Betreff: Re: [birt-dev] New BIRT Logo

 

Wim, we have kept the designs hidden because our experience is that some of the better designers don't want to have their works exposed since others will take their ideas and simply do some re-branding on it. 

My plan is to open up all the designs once we have given the designers a round of submitting their ideas. 

I haven't really figured out the election yet, but I was thinking if we run it on Bugzilla, then we know that the people voting are actually members of the Eclipse community. It is also harder for someone to game the voting.

 

Christophe, I am not sure what you mean you can't submit your design? Can you explain some more?

 

Scott

 

On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:19 AM Loetz, Christophe <ChLoetz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All,

 

I tried to apply for 99design and to post my logo…

 

99design will not accept my application, since I am not a full-time designer. We need a solution.

 

Best

Christophe

 

Von: birt-dev [mailto:birt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Loetz, Christophe
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. April 2021 11:05
An: For developers on the BIRT project
Betreff: Re: [birt-dev] New BIRT Logo

 

Well , I made the same experience this morning.

I guess, that the logos will be published once when the development time has expired.

 

fyi: I tried to post my design, but this was not possible. For the moment I am waiting for a call of 99designs helpdesk.

 

 

 

Von: birt-dev [mailto:birt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Wim Jongman
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. April 2021 10:52
An: For developers on the BIRT project
Betreff: Re: [birt-dev] New BIRT Logo

 

I can't see the designs. It says "Hidden"

 

I am logged in.

 

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On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 8:04 PM Scott Rosenbaum <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

All, 

 

This is now running on 99designs for the next 7 days. 

 

Christophe, I don't see any reason that you can't submit your design for consideration to the contest. In that way, if selected, you will be compensated for your work. 

 

We will need to have an election for the winning logo. Does anyone have feedback on who should be eligible to vote? Commiters, Community (Bugzilla), Open?

 

Scott

 

 

 

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 1:49 PM Wim Jongman <wim.jongman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Cheers, Scott! Thanks.

 

 

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