RE: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation?

[David M Williams <david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I put my release reviews in webtools\releaseReviews
if you want to put it in there under a dated directory (that's in our website
repo). You can also just send files, since the eventual official copy will
be on the Eclipse Foundations 'projects' site, from the files we send them.


As for IP Review, I've argued in the
past we don't need one for a graduation review (just for release reviews)
and was told "do it anyway" :)  So, we could push back a
little on that, but its not a bad idea to do it anyway. Unfortunately,
the "auto ip" log will only give a starting point. What I've
done in the past, is "save" the HTML output from the incubator's
IP log: 

http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=webtools.incubator

And then read that into a tool like
WTP :) or even Open Office and delete the stuff that is not relevant to
the component under review. Its a painful hack, but is easier than typing
it all over again. And, of course, you need to make sure its accurate!
You'll need to do all that soon enough for Release Review, so its good
to do it now to make sure it comes together ... plus, more important, some
of it, such as CQs, might have to "move" from incubator component
to webservices component. 

To answer more than you asked about,
I think the most important things to stress in a graduation review, is
to highlight how you've "fit in" to the larger WTP project, and
demonstrate that you do have adopters and users  (such as from bug
reports, news group questions, etc ... even Oisin's questions would count
a little  :) 

HTH.

From:	shane clarke <shane_clarke@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	<wtp-incubator-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	02/08/2010 06:37 PM
Subject:	RE: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation?
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Hi David,

No not thinking that. Just wanted to be clear on what's required.

Is there anywhere in CVS you'd recommend to commit an initial draft / template
to enable shared editing?

And for the IP log information. How do we generate that?

Thanks,
Shane

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Subject: RE: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation?
From: david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 18:01:00 -0500


Yes. PMC needs to approve all requests for releases, creations, moves,
and graduation (I'm pretty sure ... are you thinking we do not have to?),
and yes, best if "final" docuware.

From:	shane clarke <shane_clarke@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	<wtp-incubator-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	02/08/2010 05:46 PM
Subject:	RE: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation?
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Hi David,

So we need to seek PMC approval before requesting the graduation review.

What materials would be required by the PMC on the 15th? The docuware?

Thanks,
Shane

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Subject: RE: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation?
From: david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:09:33 -0500


Needs to be (at least) two weeks before scheduled, and you should get to
PMC at least a week before that, for their approval. I don't know for sure
the EMO will hold reviews on March 10th, but they normally do on Wednesday's
and they have some on February 10, so seems. likely. Guess it might slip
to 17th. But, assuming 10th,  and counting backwards, that'd mean
having materials to PMC on 2/17th, at latest.  By 15th would be best,
since our meetings are on Tuesday's we could discuss at 2/16 meeting if
required. 

Seem feasible? 

Thanks,

From:	shane clarke <shane_clarke@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	<wtp-incubator-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:	02/08/2010 05:00 PM
Subject:	RE: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation?
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Hi David,

Yes still interested in doing the graduation review next month. The 10th
was the date mentioned.

How soon would we need to send the email to the emo to schedule the review?

Thanks,
Shane

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From: david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 14:33:33 -0500
Subject: [wtp-incubator-dev] JAX-WS and graduation? 


I have a reminder to myself, to remind the JAX-WS team, about graduation
about now. 

Still interested? 

At one point, we discussed doing it in early March so that at EclipseCon
you could talk up how you'd graduated. 

If that's no longer required or desired, then as far as I know, you could
pretty easily just graduate with the Helios release. 
(You'd still need the "graduation request", docuware, etc. ...
just the timing would change). 

If there is "hard" dependencies in other Helios projects, (e.g.
SOA) then you might also want to do it early, to remove any doubt those
other projects might have. 

What's the current thinking? 

Thanks,

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