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Re: [riena-dev] Riena UI

hi christian,

thanks for the answer...

Christian Campo schrieb:
Hi Ekkehard,

the short answer is:
- yes we only implement a toolbar on the top, the view is something drawn by the View class. normally we dont have a toolbar there and we think its confusing if it has one.
normaly I would do it the same way
If you have a different opinion on this (why not), not might also build your own view and add a toolbar inside there.

but there are some special cases (for special business users) where I'll need a toolbar inside the view
good to hear that its possible
- I am not sure why you would like to drag from the navigation to the Workarea (view on the right). maybe you can explain what you wonna do. if you are talking about shift the navigation to the right side, that is currently not a planned feature. but I dont think that is what you were asking for.
yes, thats not what I'm asking for
imagine at the right a view with some business data
and at the left a list or tree and dragging one of the entries left to a field right will cause an action / insert data etc.

...but from your answer it seems that at the left there's only place for navigation trees ?

imagine following situation:

a disponent of trucks sees at the left available trucks he is responsible for
and at the right in the top half he has open orders
then he dragged a car on a specific order and then in a table in the bottom half of right view an entry appears with this truck and order and the truck disappears from left ond the ordr disappears from top half right view

its not the exactly way - should only show the things that should be possible

if the left part is only navigation, then I have to move the list of trucks into the right view

- we are also not planning on having a fullsize view again because the navigation should always be visible. you can resize the whole application and by this make you view area larger

I've seen that I can resize the window, but it would be great (for my users) to toggle the navigator on/off
- we are right now make the use of Riena more understandable and easy to use.
:-)
I can explain that in a little bit detail in a mail tomorrow.
great !
One goal is to use Tools like SWT Designer to layout Riena views. (I did a little research on that in the last week).
exactly what I need
- the other part is allowing people to use Riena features like ridgets and all their APIs without "buying" into the whole Riena concept.
I was thinking about this, but because of lack of knowledge of the Riena concepts I wasn't sure if this would be possible of course it would be nice if I can live with the things I'm buying with the Riena concept
So you should be able to just have one widget wrapped by a ridget in a regular RCP application and then maybe create a whole view and use ridgets for them but still within RCP.
sounds great - then I can use the cool Riena features if my decision would be not to use the whole Riena UI because of some restrictions

this is coming, however not finished.

more on that tomorrow.
I'll wait ... ;-)
if you have more questions, please let me know
they will come
last weeks I had much work with EasyBeans to make it run with 500+ SessionBeans, 1000+ Business Interfaces, some PersistenceUnits / DataSources. this seems to work now at server site, all starts up automatically and then starts my Riena stuff of course I'm waiting for some bugfixes from EasyBeans and for an important enhancement: EasyBeans already registers all my EJB Interfaces as OSGI services, but without the possibility to give them some properties I need to use them as Riena remote services. But they understand and will make the Services manageable so I can add the properties :-)

next week will be intensive GUI testing for Riena and make decisions, then 2 weeks holiday, then (hopefully with M4) work on UI again

thx for help

ekke


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