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Re: [egit-dev] jgit and eclipse meta-data.
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On 2010-01-09, at 9:42 AM, Thomas Hallgren wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> I do realize that everything can be made to work if m2eclipse is installed. What troubles me is that I have to do that to make even a simple thing like compiling in the workspace work.
It's a Maven project I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that.
> I also have to install m2eclipse into our own automated build system.
No you wouldn't. I can help with that but all you would need is Tycho there. Why would you need to install M2Eclipse, it's simply the UI aspect of the Maven integration. Tycho is all you need in an automated environment.
> I don't think a build system should be that intrusive and I actually don't think that m2eclipse/maven *is* that intrusive. That's why I'm advocating an alternative approach where the manifest can be checked in.
In the native project there is no manifest. So you're asking the project to work in an artificial way. I think the proper approach is to make these projects work correctly in your CI mechanism so let's take the steps to get that working.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas Hallgren
>
>
> Jason van Zyl wrote:
>> On 2010-01-09, at 5:56 AM, Thomas Hallgren wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thomas Hallgren wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2010-01-08 16:35, Shawn O. Pearce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Hallgren<thomas@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So in essence, any user that wants to bring jgit into their workspace
>>>>>> and just compile it using a normal workspace build it will henceforth be
>>>>>> forced to also install m2eclipse?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you want me to check in .project and .classpath files, yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> That makes it hard for us (an I guess for other Eclipse projects as well) to use this bundle in other forms than as a binary.
>>>
>>
>> It will work nicely with M2Eclipse installed. It will only get better.
>>
>> When I see PDE-only projects I don't ask for a POM to make it work for Tycho, or a Maven POM. I just deal with what the project has selected. Every project can't support the infrastructure to satisfy the preference of every participant. For EGit it may still be a toss up whether to use Tycho, PDE Build, or Buckminster but I think it's the choice of the primary participants in the project that for JGit it's a Maven build.
>>
>> We're going to continue to make M2Eclipse/Tycho work well with PDE. I don't think it's that much of a burden to install M2Eclipse.
>>
>>
>>> Our automated build is not based on Maven and it assumes that the source bundles that are checked out have necessary files such as the manifest present.
>>>
>>
>> I'd be happy to try and add Maven capabilities if CI is problem. We definitely want proper CI. The CI build is going to have to mimic the build as it is so what are the steps to take in order to get first-class Maven support in Athena. Just point me in the right direction.
>>
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>>> I guess that any build based on PDE or Athena will have similar problems.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Why if they use the method that Igor is outlining?
>>
>>
>>> Is there really no other solution to this problem?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Thomas Hallgren
>>>
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>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jason
>>
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Jason van Zyl
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Thanks,
Jason
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Jason van Zyl
Founder, Apache Maven
http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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