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Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
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Jim,
As much as I'd like to give this priority, weekends are family time, and all the
weekends before Easter are booked.
Hallvard
Jim van Dam wrote:
Olivier,
Of course I completely agree with Amsterdam as the perfect place to meet ;-)
To be fair Olivier, if nobody else will come and it's just the two of us before EclipseCon we could meet halfway in Belgium.
Tom/Hallvard, are you able to come to Amsterdam for a weekend?
Regards,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Olivier Moïses
Sent: dinsdag 10 februari 2009 14:38
To: E4 Project developer mailing list
Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
Hi All,
Having a meeting together before EclipseCon sounds really good for me.
Due to business constrainsts, I'd hugely prefer having this meeting
during a weekend instead of usual working days (I know, everybody works
also during the weekend !! :-) ).
Regarding the meeting location, I suggest Amsterdam wich is easily
reachable by plane, train, car, boat, etc...
Olivier
PS: Hallvard, I'd like to visit Norway, but for this I guess I need
more
than 1 or 2 days ;-)
Jim van Dam a écrit :
Hi Hallvard/All,
And Jim, Norway is a wonderful place to ski, although it is still a
bit
early with short days. What kind of skiiing do you do, downhill or
snowboard?
Downhill, but currently it is mostly son-to-son ( I have four sons
aged 2-5-7-9).
In the past I visited Norway (Oslo and south coast) and liked it very
much.
Does everyone have time to meet before EclipseCon and what week would
be best?
For me week 9-12 is ok except March 3rd and 16th.
Regards,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Hallvard Trætteberg
Sent: maandag 9 februari 2009 22:08
To: E4 Project developer mailing list
Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
Jim van Dam wrote:
Next week I'll be skiing (Switzerland not Austria, sorry Tom), but
after that I am willing to travel to any of the four countries or
welcome you in the Netherlands before EclipseCon to get things
kicked
off.
I will not be able to go to EclipseCon, but I would be very happy to
attend a
"local" European Declarative UI meeting later this year.
And Jim, Norway is a wonderful place to ski, although it is still a
bit
early
with short days. What kind of skiiing do you do, downhill or
snowboard?
Hallvard
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Schindl [mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: maandag 9 februari 2009 15:05
To: Robert Wloch
Cc: jim van dam; tom herrmann; helmar behrends
Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
Hi All,
It looks like we are all located in Western Europe (Netherlands,
Germany, Austria) so we should maybe be able to arrange a meeting
somewhere in the middle (presumably after EclipseCon).
In fact even when looking at the greater circle of Declarative UI
people
it looks Europe rules in this area:
- Hallvard Trætteberg - Norway
- Olivier Moïses - France
- Angelo Zerr - France
- Yves Yang - France
- Jim Van Dam - Netherlands
- Tom Herrmann - Germany (assumed)
- Helmar Behrends - Germany (assumed)
- Robert Wloch - Germany
- Tom Schindl - Austria
At least Jim, Olivier, Yves and me are at EclipseCon and can meet
there
(I'll arrive Friday evening and stay at Hilton).
We could meet somewhere in the middle to kick off the
collabortation
-
I
think we need to meet in person to get the collaboration started.
I have no problem traveling to Germany/Netherlands/... but you
could
also come to Austria if you'd like to.
Tom
Robert Wloch schrieb:
Tom, Jim,
I'm glad you both see the same opportunity on collaboration here!
Unfortunately I won't be at the EclipseCon and it won't be
possible
for
me to attend either, as I'll be at the MDD&PL 2009 in the very
same
week. So what's your suggestion for a get together? I'll also CC
Tom
Herrmann and Helmar Behrends from the Flowr team, as they'd be
interested in a common talk, too.
Cheers,
Rob
----- "Jim van Dam" <jim.van.dam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello Rob,
Rob> > I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days
and
both
interest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are a
natural
symbiosis.
Tom> Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all
meet
like
on
ESE and talk how we could collaborate.
Completely agree with you and Tom and see a lot of opportunity
for
collaboration.
PMF is aiming at UI modeling/transformation from PIM to a
diverse
set
of target platforms.
My personal UI target platform experience using PMF is with
Swing,
ASP.Net/SharePoint and JSF so together we can cover a broad
spectrum.
Looking forward to meeting you all at EclipseCon. I arrive on
Saturday
and I believe there are different BOFS proposed for UI related
subjects so lots of opportunity to see how we can arrange joint
efforts.
Regards,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Tom Schindl
Sent: zondag 8 februari 2009 22:09
To: E4 Project developer mailing list
Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction
Hi Rob,
As the project lead of UFaceKit I'm always open for discussion
and
collobaration.
I agree about that it looks like we 3 would we a perfect match.
As
you
maybe already found out UFaceKit has quite a simple concept by
defining
a set of interfaces and a factory to create the concrete
implementation.
Currently we have first class support for:
- SWT & JFace
- QT
Second class support for:
- Swing (in fact only need to implement the styleing stuff)
Incubation work for:
- Native GWT
- SmartGWT
First ideas on:
- Draw2d
- Android
I'd welcome any feedback and input (I desperately search for
skilled
Swing-Devs) as you can imagine is hard to find for someone like
me.
Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meet
like
on
ESE
and talk how we could collaborate. Maybe I also need to mention
that
there's no fulltime coder working on UFaceKit (we are all doing
the
stuff in our spare time!).
Tom
Robert Wloch schrieb:
Angelo, Ed, and all others thanks for your responses.
I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and
both
interest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are a
natural
symbiosis.
In the team I was working in from 2006 until 2008 we were
developing
something very similar to the PMF combined with UFace, except
that
"our
UFace" consisted of a Swing and an AJAX renderer only.
Additionally
the
layout of our GUI was declared via XML files, catchword
"declarative
UI". Currently, my old team is recoding our first shot and made
it
open
source: http://www.flowr.org. I believe these three parties
(UFace,
PMF,
Flowr) should talk with each other soon. ;-)
Anyways, I'd be glad to contribute my share of labor and
knowledge
to
PMF and UFace. Any help on how to get on board is greatly
appreciated!
Cheers,
Rob
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