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RE: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
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Next week I'll be skiing (Switzerland not Austria, sorry Tom), but after that I am willing to travel to any of the four countries or welcome you in the Netherlands before EclipseCon to get things kicked off.
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Schindl [mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: maandag 9 februari 2009 15:05
> To: Robert Wloch
> Cc: jim van dam; tom herrmann; helmar behrends
> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
>
> Hi All,
>
> It looks like we are all located in Western Europe (Netherlands,
> Germany, Austria) so we should maybe be able to arrange a meeting
> somewhere in the middle (presumably after EclipseCon).
>
> In fact even when looking at the greater circle of Declarative UI
> people
> it looks Europe rules in this area:
> - Hallvard Trætteberg - Norway
> - Olivier Moïses - France
> - Angelo Zerr - France
> - Yves Yang - France
> - Jim Van Dam - Netherlands
> - Tom Herrmann - Germany (assumed)
> - Helmar Behrends - Germany (assumed)
> - Robert Wloch - Germany
> - Tom Schindl - Austria
>
> At least Jim, Olivier, Yves and me are at EclipseCon and can meet there
> (I'll arrive Friday evening and stay at Hilton).
>
> We could meet somewhere in the middle to kick off the collabortation -
> I
> think we need to meet in person to get the collaboration started.
>
> I have no problem traveling to Germany/Netherlands/... but you could
> also come to Austria if you'd like to.
>
> Tom
>
> Robert Wloch schrieb:
> > Tom, Jim,
> >
> > I'm glad you both see the same opportunity on collaboration here!
> Unfortunately I won't be at the EclipseCon and it won't be possible for
> me to attend either, as I'll be at the MDD&PL 2009 in the very same
> week. So what's your suggestion for a get together? I'll also CC Tom
> Herrmann and Helmar Behrends from the Flowr team, as they'd be
> interested in a common talk, too.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob
> >
> > ----- "Jim van Dam" <jim.van.dam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Hello Rob,
> >>
> >> Rob> > I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and
> >> both
> >>> interest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are a
> >> natural
> >>> symbiosis.
> >> Tom> Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meet
> like
> >> on
> >>> ESE and talk how we could collaborate.
> >> Completely agree with you and Tom and see a lot of opportunity for
> >> collaboration.
> >> PMF is aiming at UI modeling/transformation from PIM to a diverse
> set
> >> of target platforms.
> >> My personal UI target platform experience using PMF is with Swing,
> >> ASP.Net/SharePoint and JSF so together we can cover a broad spectrum.
> >> Looking forward to meeting you all at EclipseCon. I arrive on
> Saturday
> >> and I believe there are different BOFS proposed for UI related
> >> subjects so lots of opportunity to see how we can arrange joint
> >> efforts.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> On
> >>> Behalf Of Tom Schindl
> >>> Sent: zondag 8 februari 2009 22:09
> >>> To: E4 Project developer mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction
> >>>
> >>> Hi Rob,
> >>>
> >>> As the project lead of UFaceKit I'm always open for discussion and
> >>> collobaration.
> >>>
> >>> I agree about that it looks like we 3 would we a perfect match. As
> >> you
> >>> maybe already found out UFaceKit has quite a simple concept by
> >> defining
> >>> a set of interfaces and a factory to create the concrete
> >> implementation.
> >>> Currently we have first class support for:
> >>> - SWT & JFace
> >>> - QT
> >>>
> >>> Second class support for:
> >>> - Swing (in fact only need to implement the styleing stuff)
> >>>
> >>> Incubation work for:
> >>> - Native GWT
> >>> - SmartGWT
> >>>
> >>> First ideas on:
> >>> - Draw2d
> >>> - Android
> >>>
> >>> I'd welcome any feedback and input (I desperately search for
> >> skilled
> >>> Swing-Devs) as you can imagine is hard to find for someone like me.
> >>>
> >>> Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meet like
> >> on
> >>> ESE
> >>> and talk how we could collaborate. Maybe I also need to mention
> >> that
> >>> there's no fulltime coder working on UFaceKit (we are all doing the
> >>> stuff in our spare time!).
> >>>
> >>> Tom
> >>>
> >>> Robert Wloch schrieb:
> >>>> Angelo, Ed, and all others thanks for your responses.
> >>>>
> >>>> I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and both
> >>> interest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are a
> >> natural
> >>> symbiosis.
> >>>> In the team I was working in from 2006 until 2008 we were
> >> developing
> >>> something very similar to the PMF combined with UFace, except that
> >> "our
> >>> UFace" consisted of a Swing and an AJAX renderer only. Additionally
> >> the
> >>> layout of our GUI was declared via XML files, catchword
> >> "declarative
> >>> UI". Currently, my old team is recoding our first shot and made it
> >> open
> >>> source: http://www.flowr.org. I believe these three parties (UFace,
> >> PMF,
> >>> Flowr) should talk with each other soon. ;-)
> >>>> Anyways, I'd be glad to contribute my share of labor and knowledge
> >> to
> >>> PMF and UFace. Any help on how to get on board is greatly
> >> appreciated!
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Rob
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