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RE: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
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Hi Hallvard/All,
>> And Jim, Norway is a wonderful place to ski, although it is still a bit
>> early with short days. What kind of skiiing do you do, downhill or snowboard?
Downhill, but currently it is mostly son-to-son ( I have four sons aged 2-5-7-9).
In the past I visited Norway (Oslo and south coast) and liked it very much.
Does everyone have time to meet before EclipseCon and what week would be best?
For me week 9-12 is ok except March 3rd and 16th.
Regards,
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Hallvard Trætteberg
> Sent: maandag 9 februari 2009 22:08
> To: E4 Project developer mailing list
> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
>
> Jim van Dam wrote:
> > Next week I'll be skiing (Switzerland not Austria, sorry Tom), but
> > after that I am willing to travel to any of the four countries or
> > welcome you in the Netherlands before EclipseCon to get things kicked
> off.
>
> I will not be able to go to EclipseCon, but I would be very happy to
> attend a
> "local" European Declarative UI meeting later this year.
>
> And Jim, Norway is a wonderful place to ski, although it is still a bit
> early
> with short days. What kind of skiiing do you do, downhill or snowboard?
>
> Hallvard
>
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tom Schindl [mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: maandag 9 februari 2009 15:05
> >> To: Robert Wloch
> >> Cc: jim van dam; tom herrmann; helmar behrends
> >> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction::UFace, PMF & Flowr
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> It looks like we are all located in Western Europe (Netherlands,
> >> Germany, Austria) so we should maybe be able to arrange a meeting
> >> somewhere in the middle (presumably after EclipseCon).
> >>
> >> In fact even when looking at the greater circle of Declarative UI
> >> people
> >> it looks Europe rules in this area:
> >> - Hallvard Trætteberg - Norway
> >> - Olivier Moïses - France
> >> - Angelo Zerr - France
> >> - Yves Yang - France
> >> - Jim Van Dam - Netherlands
> >> - Tom Herrmann - Germany (assumed)
> >> - Helmar Behrends - Germany (assumed)
> >> - Robert Wloch - Germany
> >> - Tom Schindl - Austria
> >>
> >> At least Jim, Olivier, Yves and me are at EclipseCon and can meet
> there
> >> (I'll arrive Friday evening and stay at Hilton).
> >>
> >> We could meet somewhere in the middle to kick off the collabortation
> -
> >> I
> >> think we need to meet in person to get the collaboration started.
> >>
> >> I have no problem traveling to Germany/Netherlands/... but you could
> >> also come to Austria if you'd like to.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> Robert Wloch schrieb:
> >>> Tom, Jim,
> >>>
> >>> I'm glad you both see the same opportunity on collaboration here!
> >> Unfortunately I won't be at the EclipseCon and it won't be possible
> for
> >> me to attend either, as I'll be at the MDD&PL 2009 in the very same
> >> week. So what's your suggestion for a get together? I'll also CC Tom
> >> Herrmann and Helmar Behrends from the Flowr team, as they'd be
> >> interested in a common talk, too.
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Rob
> >>>
> >>> ----- "Jim van Dam" <jim.van.dam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>> Hello Rob,
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob> > I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and
> >>>> both
> >>>>> interest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are a
> >>>> natural
> >>>>> symbiosis.
> >>>> Tom> Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meet
> >> like
> >>>> on
> >>>>> ESE and talk how we could collaborate.
> >>>> Completely agree with you and Tom and see a lot of opportunity for
> >>>> collaboration.
> >>>> PMF is aiming at UI modeling/transformation from PIM to a diverse
> >> set
> >>>> of target platforms.
> >>>> My personal UI target platform experience using PMF is with Swing,
> >>>> ASP.Net/SharePoint and JSF so together we can cover a broad
> spectrum.
> >>>> Looking forward to meeting you all at EclipseCon. I arrive on
> >> Saturday
> >>>> and I believe there are different BOFS proposed for UI related
> >>>> subjects so lots of opportunity to see how we can arrange joint
> >>>> efforts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:e4-dev-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>>> On
> >>>>> Behalf Of Tom Schindl
> >>>>> Sent: zondag 8 februari 2009 22:09
> >>>>> To: E4 Project developer mailing list
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [e4-dev] Introduction
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Rob,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As the project lead of UFaceKit I'm always open for discussion
> and
> >>>>> collobaration.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree about that it looks like we 3 would we a perfect match.
> As
> >>>> you
> >>>>> maybe already found out UFaceKit has quite a simple concept by
> >>>> defining
> >>>>> a set of interfaces and a factory to create the concrete
> >>>> implementation.
> >>>>> Currently we have first class support for:
> >>>>> - SWT & JFace
> >>>>> - QT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Second class support for:
> >>>>> - Swing (in fact only need to implement the styleing stuff)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Incubation work for:
> >>>>> - Native GWT
> >>>>> - SmartGWT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First ideas on:
> >>>>> - Draw2d
> >>>>> - Android
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd welcome any feedback and input (I desperately search for
> >>>> skilled
> >>>>> Swing-Devs) as you can imagine is hard to find for someone like
> me.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are you going to be on EclipseCon? If yes we should all meet like
> >>>> on
> >>>>> ESE
> >>>>> and talk how we could collaborate. Maybe I also need to mention
> >>>> that
> >>>>> there's no fulltime coder working on UFaceKit (we are all doing
> the
> >>>>> stuff in our spare time!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robert Wloch schrieb:
> >>>>>> Angelo, Ed, and all others thanks for your responses.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've taken a look at UFace and PMF during the past days and both
> >>>>> interest me a lot. To me it appears as if both projects are a
> >>>> natural
> >>>>> symbiosis.
> >>>>>> In the team I was working in from 2006 until 2008 we were
> >>>> developing
> >>>>> something very similar to the PMF combined with UFace, except
> that
> >>>> "our
> >>>>> UFace" consisted of a Swing and an AJAX renderer only.
> Additionally
> >>>> the
> >>>>> layout of our GUI was declared via XML files, catchword
> >>>> "declarative
> >>>>> UI". Currently, my old team is recoding our first shot and made
> it
> >>>> open
> >>>>> source: http://www.flowr.org. I believe these three parties
> (UFace,
> >>>> PMF,
> >>>>> Flowr) should talk with each other soon. ;-)
> >>>>>> Anyways, I'd be glad to contribute my share of labor and
> knowledge
> >>>> to
> >>>>> PMF and UFace. Any help on how to get on board is greatly
> >>>> appreciated!
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Rob
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