Re: [science-iwg] Approach for news/blogs

[Erwin de Ley <erwin.de.ley@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks all!
The info from Mike is indeed important to consider as well. So, up to the steering committee to discuss/decide.

In the meantime : the GitHub-hosted Triquetrum blog is live and included in http://planet.eclipse.org (with a post of Dec 23rd).

regards
erwin

Op 25/12/2015 om 03:10 schreef Jay Jay Billings:

Thanks Torkild!

FWIW, I found managing my own Wordpress installation so annoying that I moved it Wordpress.com so that they can manage it. Now I love it.

Jay

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Torkild Ulvøy Resheim <torkildr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jay,

I’ve added it with a reference to this thread for the January meeting. And thanks for the history lesson Mike. For what it’s worth; Wordpress is infinitely better than Drupal for hosting blogs. I’ve been running my own on a Synology NAS for a few years after switching from Google. There has been very little maintenance work, so I guess things has improved in that respect.

Best regards,
Torkild

> 24. des. 2015 kl. 22.54 skrev Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Torkild,
>
> Will you add an agenda item to our next steering committee meeting to discuss this please? We can come up with some of the criteria that Andrea mentioned to run them by her and Mike.
>
> Jay
>
> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> For a little history, FYI the Eclipse Foundation did operate its own hosted WordPress instance for a number of years for exactly the reasons outlined by Erwin. But we stopped it because it required a surprising amount of maintenance, but more importantly most people preferred using their own blog hosting service of choice. So aggregating blogs at Planet Eclipse has been the compromise we've been running with.
>
> I don't mean to say that we won't consider proposals for other ideas. Just wanted to pass along the history.
>
> Mike Milinkovich
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> From: Erwin de Ley
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> Dear all,
>
> For the moment I've started an experiment with a first post on http://eclipse.github.io/triquetrum/
> This site uses the GitHub pages and Jekyll tools.
> Next step is to get this into Planet eclipse.
>
> I would be in favour of having a single place where we can easily find and post articles/blogs related to the Science IWG projects, as Jay and Andrea write.
> Forums and mailing lists are good tools for handling short messages, discussions etc, but the content is often only relevant for some persons and also only for a short period of time.
> A central place to offer a timeline/stream of articles/posts that have a wider scope and with a longer "period of relevance" would be a great addition to the tools-set for an IWG.
> And it could provide a science-feed into aggregators like Planet eclipse, be easy to reference in eclipse newsletters etc?
>
> Also in the context of using eclipse tools versus external tools (cfr the discussions about using GitHub issues vs eclipse bugzilla), I think having an eclipse-operated platform for blogs would guarantee long-term availability of the published content, whereas personal/company blogs come and go...
>
> merry Xmas,
>
> erwin
>
>
> Op 24/12/2015 om 16:02 schreef Andrea Ross:
>> Hey Jay, Everyone
>>
>> Sure, we could host articles/blogs on the Science site. I think we may want to think a little about what if any criteria we place on such articles. An obvious thought would be that they are about the projects... either directly, or notable use cases where they were adopted to solve a problem or do something noteworthy.
>>
>> If we had a regular stream of good content, it would likely build a bit of a following.
>>
>> What does everyone think?
>>
>> Andrea
>>
>> On December 24, 2015 8:36:26 AM EST, Jay Jay Billings <jayjaybillings@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> You know, since science.eclipse.org is running on Drupal, we should be able to host blogs there, in theory. Andrea, what do you think?
>>
>> In general though, there's currently no standard way of hosting blogs for our projects. Let us know what you settle on for Triquetrum and we'll at least try to link to it from the Science site.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> On Dec 23, 2015 5:18 AM, "Torkild Ulvøy Resheim" <torkildr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Erwin,
>>
>> As you’ve already figured out, Planet Eclipse is just an aggregator and there is no “standard” way of hosting a blog for Planet Eclipse. Most projects don’t have a dedicated blog, news are posted by their committers on private or corporate web sites.
>>
>> I think your approach is perfectly fine. It’s also a good idea to use GitHub pages. RSS and Atom are very simple formats, so I think you’ll be able to produce it quite easily.
>>
>> To get the blog to Planet Eclipse you’ll have to do as Jonah suggested and file a bug report at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/enter_bug.cgi?product=Community&component=PlanetEclipse.org
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Torkild
>>
>> > 23. des. 2015 kl. 10.36 skrev Erwin de Ley <erwin.de.ley@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > Work, work, work, no holidays yet when working on new eclipse projects ;-)
>> >
>> > As an unexperienced project lead, I was wondering what the "normal" approach is for eclipse projects to publish news/blog-items on a project (i.e. triquetrum in this case).
>> > I couldn't find a reference to eclipse blog tools or so, and it would seem that the Planet eclipse site is only a kind of aggregator of feeds that are published elsewhere?
>> > Also, I don't feel like writing PHP, advanced HTML, ... which seems to be required to get the project site in order and to create an own blog-like result.
>> > Nor do I think it would be a good idea that project-related blogs are set-up as individual committer blogs on WordPress or whatever.
>> >
>> > So, as Triquetrum's repository is on GitHub, I started looking at GitHub pages and their Jekyll stuff to generate a project site and blogs etc.
>> > (and then I need to figure out all that modern stuff of RSS/atom feeds etc and how to get that linked in Planet eclipse)
>> >
>> > Is that an acceptable way-of-working for Science IWG projects?
>> > Anyone out there who has already some experience with this?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any info/feedback on this!
>> >
>> > and then indeed : Happy Holidays and best wishes for great projects in 2016!
>> >
>> > erwin
>> >
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