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Re: [riena-dev] Riena Update

Hi Christian,

Christian Campo wrote:
Hi Scott,

happy new year you too....

Its ok for me if you write down a Note on the wiki page about ECFs goal or why you think ECF goals are in sync. If you like to post that note also here or just a link is really your decision. If the Note gets longer, you might as well put it on a seperate page and link from my Rienas Goals page. (either way is good)

I think its easiest if you just write down what you have in mind. I can either review it or just look at in the wiki page. Whatever you want.

Ok great.


I am sure that ECF could implement all the goals on the wiki page. I just named those that we have already implemented. So maybe in your Note you want to distinguish between what is implemented and what could be implemented.

Yes, I will do this. I also intend to make clear the distinction between what we believe should be in a general remote services API (e.g. leaving up to the remote service designer the question of whether the remote service is accessed via proxies...i.e. transparently, or whether it's accessed via asynch/messaging based...i.e. explicitly), and what implementations can/do encourage...e.g. network transparent remote access...e.g. Riena). In other words, there is a general question IMHO of what remoting APIs should/must enable to deal with a variety of use cases, versus which use cases they are best suited for. I believe this applies to transparency, as well as to several other areas you outline on the goals page (e.g. stateless, connection less, discovery optional, transparent user context, progress monitoring, marshalling technology).


does that work for you ?

Sure. I would like to see some input from you and/or Riena team on the questions that I raise (e.g. distinction between API and implementation design goals, and relationship with ECF)...especially prior to 1.0 release review...as I believe they are germane both to the usability of the work by the community of folks wanting to do remoting for OSGi, as well as germane to the project's role within the set of Eclipse Foundation projects...but I will bring them up myself if you are not able/willing/sufficient time.

Thanks,

Scott



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