Re: [platform-ui-dev] M2 is next week and some experiences with Android

[Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> If platform would have auto-save that also would
solve it.
>
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=34076

No, it would not. We will only save
to recover from crashes as already pointed out in the bug report. Please
put any replies into the bug report and not here.

Dani



From:      
 Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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UI component developers list." <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:      
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Date:      
 10.09.2015 22:00
Subject:    
   Re: [platform-ui-dev]
M2 is next week and some experiences with Android Studio
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If platform would have auto-save that also would solve
it.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=34076

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Right, I was just supporting Sergey¹s idea of having it do it
> automatically like at or around reconcile time. Sergey will you open
a JDT
> bug for this? Thanks!
>
> Doug.
>
> On 2015-09-10, 3:43 PM, "platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
on behalf of
> Lars Vogel" <platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf
of
> lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>Yes it is part of JDT and it is already implemented. I guess that
is
>>the reason why I did not bring it up. ;-)
>>
>>As a quick reminder, here is what I wrote:
>>
>>> What is really cool in Android Studio is its ability to increase
>>> the editor font size easily, its full screen mode and its
auto-save
>>> feature. We already have bugs for these features targeted
for 4.6
>>> and
>>> I'm looking forward to offer the nice features of AS without
the
>>> very annoying bugs of it.
>>
>>On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>> Yes, I use it all the time. But is that a JDT feature?
>>>
>>> On 2015-09-10, 3:33 PM, "platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
on behalf
>>>of
>>> Lars Vogel" <platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on
behalf of
>>> lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Doug, we have "Organize Imports at Save" which
does this is there is
>>>>no ambiguity. See
>>>>http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/Eclipse/article.html#tips_autoformatimp
>>>>or
>>>>t
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>> I imagine most Eclipse users are already used to C-Shift-O
when they
>>>>>want to
>>>>> clear up the red lines. But yes, it would be nice
if this was
>>>>>automatic
>>>>>so
>>>>> the red lines never appear. But that would be more
a JDT feature than
>>>>>a
>>>>> platform UI one, no?
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
on behalf of Sergey
>>>>>Prigogin
>>>>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Reply-To: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers
list."
>>>>> <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 3:24 PM
>>>>> To: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers
list."
>>>>> <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Cc: E4 Project developer mailing list <e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [platform-ui-dev] M2 is next week and
some experiences
>>>>>with
>>>>> Android Studio
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't IJ autosave happen on lost focus rather than
on timer?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Sergey for the clarification. I think that
is our "Auto insert
>>>>>> at Save" feature. IntelliJ has automatic
saving so if we would also
>>>>>> have auto-save, we would also have auto imports.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards, Lars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>>>>>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> > I don't remember details since it's been
a while since I used AS,
>>>>>>but I
>>>>>> > got
>>>>>> > an impression that an import statement was
inserted automatically
>>>>>>with a
>>>>>> > tiny delay after creation on an unresolved
type reference without
>>>>>>user
>>>>>> > having to invoke a quick fix or save the
file.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > -sergey
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Lars Vogel
>>>>>><lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi Sergey,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> what is "automatic import statement
insertion". Can you give an
>>>>>> >> example?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I assume that is something different
than our save action which
>>>>>>can
>>>>>> >> organize imports at save?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Best regards, Lars
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Sergey
Prigogin
>>>>>> >> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > One AS feature that I find particularly
attractive is the
>>>>>>automatic
>>>>>> >> > import
>>>>>> >> > statement insertion when there is
no ambiguity.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > -sergey
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:39 AM,
Lars Vogel
>>>>>><lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Dear friends of Eclipse Platform
UI and e4,
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Platform UI:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Next week is milestone week,
so anything cool and urgent you
>>>>>>want to
>>>>>> >> >> see in M2 should be closed in
the next days. We are also
>>>>>>relatively
>>>>>> >> >> light on N&N entries, so
if you have developed something cool,
>>>>>> >> >> please
>>>>>> >> >> add it there.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> But maybe M2 was our cleanup
milestone, we did some great
>>>>>>clean-up
>>>>>> >> >> work (compatibility, SWT TreeTable,
Boolean.valueOf and others)
>>>>>> >> >> which
>>>>>> >> >> removed lots of garbage from
our code.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I think it is great that more
committers are getting active
>>>>>>with
>>>>>> >> >> Gerrit reviews, I especially
noticed that Dirk was super active
>>>>>>with
>>>>>> >> >> reviews. Thanks to everyone
who got involved with Gerrit
>>>>>>reviews.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Android Studio:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> On a completely unrelated note,
I'm doing Android work this
>>>>>>week
>>>>>>and
>>>>>> >> >> I'm surprised in which bad condition
Android Studio is.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Lots of rendering issues and
crashes. Hard for me to say whats
>>>>>> >> >> causing
>>>>>> >> >> that, but from where I'm looking
we are way more stable and
>>>>>>faster
>>>>>> >> >> compare to it. It feel similar
bad as the Eclipse Mars on SWT
>>>>>>GTK3.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Also the UI seem to show blocking
dialogs all the time, I start
>>>>>> >> >> loving
>>>>>> >> >> Eclipse even more for our Jobs
framework which currently gets
>>>>>> >> >> improvements from Stefan and
Sergey. Thanks for that work, I
>>>>>>can
>>>>>> >> >> tell
>>>>>> >> >> first hand that this makes a
difference if it is not there /
>>>>>>used.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> What is really cool in Android
Studio is its ability to
>>>>>>increase
>>>>>>the
>>>>>> >> >> editor font size easily, its
full screen mode and its auto-save
>>>>>> >> >> feature. We already have bugs
for these features targeted for
>>>>>>4.6
>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>> >> >> I'm looking forward to offer
the nice features of AS without
>>>>>>the
>>>>>> >> >> very
>>>>>> >> >> annoying bugs of it.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Best regards, Lars
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> P.S. Next week I'm planning
to work full time on platform, so I
>>>>>>hope
>>>>>> >> >> to get more done.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> --
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