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Re: [platform-ui-dev] M2 is next week and some experiences with Android Studio

Right, I was just supporting Sergey¹s idea of having it do it
automatically like at or around reconcile time. Sergey will you open a JDT
bug for this? Thanks!

Doug.

On 2015-09-10, 3:43 PM, "platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
Lars Vogel" <platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Yes it is part of JDT and it is already implemented. I guess that is
>the reason why I did not bring it up. ;-)
>
>As a quick reminder, here is what I wrote:
>
>> What is really cool in Android Studio is its ability to increase
>> the editor font size easily, its full screen mode and its auto-save
>> feature. We already have bugs for these features targeted for 4.6
>> and
>> I'm looking forward to offer the nice features of AS without the
>> very annoying bugs of it.
>
>On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Yes, I use it all the time. But is that a JDT feature?
>>
>> On 2015-09-10, 3:33 PM, "platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf
>>of
>> Lars Vogel" <platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
>> lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Doug, we have "Organize Imports at Save" which does this is there is
>>>no ambiguity. See
>>>http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/Eclipse/article.html#tips_autoformatimp
>>>or
>>>t
>>>
>>>On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Doug Schaefer <dschaefer@xxxxxxx>
>>>wrote:
>>>> I imagine most Eclipse users are already used to C-Shift-O when they
>>>>want to
>>>> clear up the red lines. But yes, it would be nice if this was
>>>>automatic
>>>>so
>>>> the red lines never appear. But that would be more a JDT feature than
>>>>a
>>>> platform UI one, no?
>>>>
>>>> Doug.
>>>>
>>>> From: <platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Sergey
>>>>Prigogin
>>>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Reply-To: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers list."
>>>> <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 3:24 PM
>>>> To: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers list."
>>>> <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: E4 Project developer mailing list <e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: Re: [platform-ui-dev] M2 is next week and some experiences
>>>>with
>>>> Android Studio
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't IJ autosave happen on lost focus rather than on timer?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Sergey for the clarification. I think that is our "Auto insert
>>>>> at Save" feature. IntelliJ has automatic saving so if we would also
>>>>> have auto-save, we would also have auto imports.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Lars
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>>>>> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > I don't remember details since it's been a while since I used AS,
>>>>>but I
>>>>> > got
>>>>> > an impression that an import statement was inserted automatically
>>>>>with a
>>>>> > tiny delay after creation on an unresolved type reference without
>>>>>user
>>>>> > having to invoke a quick fix or save the file.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -sergey
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Lars Vogel
>>>>><lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Hi Sergey,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> what is "automatic import statement insertion". Can you give an
>>>>> >> example?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I assume that is something different than our save action which
>>>>>can
>>>>> >> organize imports at save?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best regards, Lars
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Sergey Prigogin
>>>>> >> <eclipse.sprigogin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> > One AS feature that I find particularly attractive is the
>>>>>automatic
>>>>> >> > import
>>>>> >> > statement insertion when there is no ambiguity.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > -sergey
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Lars Vogel
>>>>><lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Dear friends of Eclipse Platform UI and e4,
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Platform UI:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Next week is milestone week, so anything cool and urgent you
>>>>>want to
>>>>> >> >> see in M2 should be closed in the next days. We are also
>>>>>relatively
>>>>> >> >> light on N&N entries, so if you have developed something cool,
>>>>> >> >> please
>>>>> >> >> add it there.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> But maybe M2 was our cleanup milestone, we did some great
>>>>>clean-up
>>>>> >> >> work (compatibility, SWT TreeTable, Boolean.valueOf and others)
>>>>> >> >> which
>>>>> >> >> removed lots of garbage from our code.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I think it is great that more committers are getting active
>>>>>with
>>>>> >> >> Gerrit reviews, I especially noticed that Dirk was super active
>>>>>with
>>>>> >> >> reviews. Thanks to everyone who got involved with Gerrit
>>>>>reviews.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Android Studio:
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> On a completely unrelated note, I'm doing Android work this
>>>>>week
>>>>>and
>>>>> >> >> I'm surprised in which bad condition Android Studio is.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Lots of rendering issues and crashes. Hard for me to say whats
>>>>> >> >> causing
>>>>> >> >> that, but from where I'm looking we are way more stable and
>>>>>faster
>>>>> >> >> compare to it. It feel similar bad as the Eclipse Mars on SWT
>>>>>GTK3.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Also the UI seem to show blocking dialogs all the time, I start
>>>>> >> >> loving
>>>>> >> >> Eclipse even more for our Jobs framework which currently gets
>>>>> >> >> improvements from Stefan and Sergey. Thanks for that work, I
>>>>>can
>>>>> >> >> tell
>>>>> >> >> first hand that this makes a difference if it is not there /
>>>>>used.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> What is really cool in Android Studio is its ability to
>>>>>increase
>>>>>the
>>>>> >> >> editor font size easily, its full screen mode and its auto-save
>>>>> >> >> feature. We already have bugs for these features targeted for
>>>>>4.6
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> >> I'm looking forward to offer the nice features of AS without
>>>>>the
>>>>> >> >> very
>>>>> >> >> annoying bugs of it.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Best regards, Lars
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> P.S. Next week I'm planning to work full time on platform, so I
>>>>>hope
>>>>> >> >> to get more done.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> --
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