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Re: [phoenix-dev] Re: First steps towards a better eclipse.org website

Excellent point, Ian.

Karl

Ian Bull wrote:
There is a recent discussion of the installer on the Eclipse-dev list, and I was thinking maybe we can use p2 to help with the complexity of our website. This thread started because: "there are 10's of projects and 100's of download options at eclipse".

I wonder if a standard installer can help here. I know the current installer is just meant to get a particular version of the Eclipse SDK, but now with p2, it should be possible to have a 1 download solution for everything at Eclipse.

The download would be an installer, configured with a "standard tab" and "advanced tab". The standard tab would have the different EPP versions: 1 big button to get C/C++, J2EE, Modeling, Run-Time, etc... On the "advanced tab", a user can pick and choose the exact packages they want (and p2 can sort out the dependencies).

I am posting this here (instead of eclipse-dev) as I don't want to derail the discussion around the shape of 3.4, and this is *not* something to consider for 3.4. But in the long term, if we re-think the way we ship Eclipse it may make our website easier to navigate.

Just an idea.

Ian


Bjorn Freeman-Benson wrote:
Ian,
First, I just wanted to have parallel wording between the "users" and "adopters" - I (personally) think we don't give adopters enough credit at Eclipse. Hence my desire to see a parallel construct.

Second, there's a different between "an information source" and "make it easy". Make it easy implies a more proactive approach: we could provide tools for projects that help the projects make it easier for adopters (e.g. a way for adopters to register the APIs that they use so that the projects know which are the most important APIs), things that aren't just "information"... Anyway, that's my thought.

- Bjorn

I was thinking my second bullet would cover this point. The goal being to be an information source for anyone to use and adopt Eclipse technology. Or do you think it is sufficiently different to make them separate?

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