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Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components?
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And in case Alex's email isn't reaching the PMC mailing list:
My contributions:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=242880
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=266320
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198945
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=217461
The first 2 bugs contain explicit patches from me, while the other two
contain instructions on how to fix these issues. All of these improvements
were approved by Christian and eventually committed.
- Alex.
On 3/17/09 6:34 AM, "Richard Gronback" <richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> And I believe Alexander Igdalov has also expressed an interest in
> contributing to MDT OCL.
>
> - Rich
>
>
> On 3/16/09 3:08 PM, "Ed Willink" <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
>> that I'm the only person to have contributed sufficiently to merit
>> promotion to a committer under normal circumstances, and given that
>> I have indicated that I am happy to contribute further to the project.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ed Willink
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freddy
>>> Allilaire
>>> Sent: 16 March 2009 15:05
>>> To: PMC members mailing list; Ed Merks
>>> Cc: Laurent Goubet
>>> Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL
>>> andEMF"QTV" Components?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>> Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
>>>
>>> lead : Freddy Allilaire
>>> committers :
>>> Anthony Hunter
>>> Bernd Kolb
>>> another SAP guy ;-)
>>> Laurent Goubet
>>>
>>> Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Freddy
>>>
>>> Ed Merks a écrit :
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
>>>> simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
>>>> expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a
>>> lead, for each
>>>> component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
>>>> that list.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components
>>> on your own
>>>>> time until a termination review?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
>>>>> components to take over next week, with the provision that things
>>>>> could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers...
>>>>> Anthony
>>>>> --
>>>>> Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
>>>>> IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
>>>>> Phone: 613-270-4613
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Inactive hide details for "Christian W. Damus"
>>> ---03/12/2009 10:16:29
>>>>> AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has
>>> be"Christian W.
>>>>> Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for
>>> your prompt
>>>>> input. That has been my understanding, too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From:
>>>>> "Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date:
>>>>> 03/12/2009 10:16 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> [modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
>>>>> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, Kenn,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic:
>>> it should
>>>>> be called the
>>>>>
>>> "Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project
>>> Review." :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews
>>> of these
>>>>> components and send them out for feed-back before asking
>>> the EMO to
>>>>> schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that
>>> there is,
>>>>> in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these
>>> components with
>>>>> new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
>>>>> recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
>>>>> parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new
>>> road-map,
>>>>> committer team, and leadership for these components.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian,
>>>>>
>>>>> The process for ³vaulting of individuals into committer
>>>>> positions² IS the Termination Review, AFAIK.
>>> To be clear,
>>>>> a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
>>>>> project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
>>>>> the community the chance to step up and
>>> potentially do a
>>>>> reboot. I don¹t think we can/should replace all of the
>>>>> committers (only one in this case) with new
>>> ones via the
>>>>> usual voting process unless we can justify the new
>>>>> committers based on meritocracy
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> *Kenn Hussey
>>>>> Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
>>>>> *<image001.jpg>* <http://www.embarcadero.com/>
>>>>> *Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. |
>>> **www.embarcadero.com*
>>>>> <http://www.embarcadero.com/>*
>>>>> 82 Peter Street, Second Floor | Toronto, ON M5V 2G5*_
>>>>> _*Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*
>>>>> <mailto:Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>>>>> Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105*
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
>>>>> <mailto:emf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
>>>>> *Christian W.Damus*
>>>>> Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
>>>>> To:* PMC members mailing list*
>>>>> Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
>>>>> Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev]
>>> Transition Plan for
>>>>> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
>>>>> willingness to commit to the continued
>>> vitality of these
>>>>> components! It's great to see such support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just to be clear, again: as I understand it,
>>> Termination
>>>>> Review is the only process by which a
>>> project's committer
>>>>> team might be changed /en masse/ on events
>>> such as this,
>>>>> and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders
>>> is always
>>>>> that the project continue under new leadership
>>> with a new
>>>>> committer team.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is another mechanism available, or if the
>>>>> Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please
>>> let me know!
>>>>> I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
>>>>> willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
>>>>> approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
>>>>> positions that they would not, under normal
>>>>> circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC
>>> reps for the
>>>>> projects involved?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, my PMC,
>>>>>
>>>>> As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
>>>>> some time now. That interval is now coming to
>>> an end, to
>>>>> my great relief.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, in my new employment, the job description does
>>>>> not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
>>>>> Modeling components on which I am currently a
>>> committer.
>>>>> Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
>>>>> from the MDD sphere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would not be able to contribute as a
>>> committer on these
>>>>> components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
>>>>> community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
>>>>> personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
>>>>> committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
>>>>> Query, Transaction, and Validation components
>>> as of next
>>>>> week.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
>>>>> on these components. As I understand the
>>> Eclipse process,
>>>>> a Project that finds itself without any committers
>>>>> proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
>>>>> project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
>>>>> Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
>>>>> process (in which these components that are still
>>>>> Components would be Projects) should apply?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Christian
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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