[
Date Prev][
Date Next][
Thread Prev][
Thread Next][
Date Index][
Thread Index]
[
List Home]
|
Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components?
|
And I believe Alexander Igdalov has also expressed an interest in
contributing to MDT OCL.
- Rich
On 3/16/09 3:08 PM, "Ed Willink" <ed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
> that I'm the only person to have contributed sufficiently to merit
> promotion to a committer under normal circumstances, and given that
> I have indicated that I am happy to contribute further to the project.
>
> Regards
>
> Ed Willink
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freddy
>> Allilaire
>> Sent: 16 March 2009 15:05
>> To: PMC members mailing list; Ed Merks
>> Cc: Laurent Goubet
>> Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL
>> andEMF"QTV" Components?
>>
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
>>
>> lead : Freddy Allilaire
>> committers :
>> Anthony Hunter
>> Bernd Kolb
>> another SAP guy ;-)
>> Laurent Goubet
>>
>> Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Freddy
>>
>> Ed Merks a écrit :
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
>>> simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
>>> expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a
>> lead, for each
>>> component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
>>> that list.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components
>> on your own
>>>> time until a termination review?
>>>>
>>>> Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
>>>> components to take over next week, with the provision that things
>>>> could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers...
>>>> Anthony
>>>> --
>>>> Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
>>>> IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
>>>> Phone: 613-270-4613
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inactive hide details for "Christian W. Damus"
>> ---03/12/2009 10:16:29
>>>> AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has
>> be"Christian W.
>>>> Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for
>> your prompt
>>>> input. That has been my understanding, too.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From:
>>>> "Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Date:
>>>> 03/12/2009 10:16 AM
>>>>
>>>> Subject:
>>>> [modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
>>>> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
>>>>
>>>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Kenn,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic:
>> it should
>>>> be called the
>>>>
>> "Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project
>> Review." :-)
>>>>
>>>> I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews
>> of these
>>>> components and send them out for feed-back before asking
>> the EMO to
>>>> schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that
>> there is,
>>>> in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these
>> components with
>>>> new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
>>>> recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
>>>> parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new
>> road-map,
>>>> committer team, and leadership for these components.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Christian,
>>>>
>>>> The process for ³vaulting of individuals into committer
>>>> positions² IS the Termination Review, AFAIK.
>> To be clear,
>>>> a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
>>>> project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
>>>> the community the chance to step up and
>> potentially do a
>>>> reboot. I don¹t think we can/should replace all of the
>>>> committers (only one in this case) with new
>> ones via the
>>>> usual voting process unless we can justify the new
>>>> committers based on meritocracy
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> *Kenn Hussey
>>>> Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
>>>> *<image001.jpg>* <http://www.embarcadero.com/>
>>>> *Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. |
>> **www.embarcadero.com*
>>>> <http://www.embarcadero.com/>*
>>>> 82 Peter Street, Second Floor | Toronto, ON M5V 2G5*_
>>>> _*Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*
>>>> <mailto:Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>>>> Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105*
>>>>
>>>> *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
>>>> <mailto:emf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
>>>> *Christian W.Damus*
>>>> Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
>>>> To:* PMC members mailing list*
>>>> Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
>>>> Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev]
>> Transition Plan for
>>>> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
>>>> willingness to commit to the continued
>> vitality of these
>>>> components! It's great to see such support.
>>>>
>>>> Just to be clear, again: as I understand it,
>> Termination
>>>> Review is the only process by which a
>> project's committer
>>>> team might be changed /en masse/ on events
>> such as this,
>>>> and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders
>> is always
>>>> that the project continue under new leadership
>> with a new
>>>> committer team.
>>>>
>>>> If there is another mechanism available, or if the
>>>> Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please
>> let me know!
>>>> I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
>>>> willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
>>>> approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
>>>> positions that they would not, under normal
>>>> circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.
>>>>
>>>> Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC
>> reps for the
>>>> projects involved?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello, my PMC,
>>>>
>>>> As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
>>>> some time now. That interval is now coming to
>> an end, to
>>>> my great relief.
>>>>
>>>> However, in my new employment, the job description does
>>>> not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
>>>> Modeling components on which I am currently a
>> committer.
>>>> Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
>>>> from the MDD sphere.
>>>>
>>>> I would not be able to contribute as a
>> committer on these
>>>> components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
>>>> community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
>>>> personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
>>>> committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
>>>> Query, Transaction, and Validation components
>> as of next
>>>> week.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
>>>> on these components. As I understand the
>> Eclipse process,
>>>> a Project that finds itself without any committers
>>>> proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
>>>> project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
>>>> Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
>>>> process (in which these components that are still
>>>> Components would be Projects) should apply?
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mdt-ocl.dev mailing list_
>>>> __mdt-ocl.dev@eclipse.org_
>> <mailto:mdt-ocl.dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>_
>>>> __https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/mdt-ocl.dev_
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> mdt-ocl.dev mailing list_
>>>> __mdt-ocl.dev@eclipse.org_
>> <mailto:mdt-ocl.dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>_
>>>>
>> __https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/mdt-ocl.dev_
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> modeling-pmc mailing list
>>>> modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/modeling-pmc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> modeling-pmc mailing list
>>>> modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/modeling-pmc
>>>>
>>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> modeling-pmc mailing list
>>> modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/modeling-pmc
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> modeling-pmc mailing list
> modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/modeling-pmc
>
