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RE: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components?
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Hi
I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
that I'm the only person to have contributed sufficiently to merit
promotion to a committer under normal circumstances, and given that
I have indicated that I am happy to contribute further to the project.
Regards
Ed Willink
> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freddy
> Allilaire
> Sent: 16 March 2009 15:05
> To: PMC members mailing list; Ed Merks
> Cc: Laurent Goubet
> Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL
> andEMF"QTV" Components?
>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
>
> lead : Freddy Allilaire
> committers :
> Anthony Hunter
> Bernd Kolb
> another SAP guy ;-)
> Laurent Goubet
>
> Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Freddy
>
> Ed Merks a écrit :
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
> > simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
> > expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a
> lead, for each
> > component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
> > that list.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Anthony Hunter wrote:
> >>
> >> So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components
> on your own
> >> time until a termination review?
> >>
> >> Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
> >> components to take over next week, with the provision that things
> >> could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
> >>
> >> Cheers...
> >> Anthony
> >> --
> >> Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
> >> IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
> >> Phone: 613-270-4613
> >>
> >>
> >> Inactive hide details for "Christian W. Damus"
> ---03/12/2009 10:16:29
> >> AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has
> be"Christian W.
> >> Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for
> your prompt
> >> input. That has been my understanding, too.
> >>
> >>
> >> From:
> >> "Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> To:
> >> PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> Date:
> >> 03/12/2009 10:16 AM
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >> [modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
> >> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, Kenn,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic:
> it should
> >> be called the
> >>
> "Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project
> Review." :-)
> >>
> >> I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews
> of these
> >> components and send them out for feed-back before asking
> the EMO to
> >> schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that
> there is,
> >> in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these
> components with
> >> new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
> >> recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
> >> parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new
> road-map,
> >> committer team, and leadership for these components.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
> >>
> >> Christian,
> >>
> >> The process for vaulting of individuals into committer
> >> positions IS the Termination Review, AFAIK.
> To be clear,
> >> a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
> >> project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
> >> the community the chance to step up and
> potentially do a
> >> reboot. I dont think we can/should replace all of the
> >> committers (only one in this case) with new
> ones via the
> >> usual voting process unless we can justify the new
> >> committers based on meritocracy
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> *Kenn Hussey
> >> Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
> >> *<image001.jpg>* <http://www.embarcadero.com/>
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> >>
> >> *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> >> <mailto:emf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
> >> *Christian W.Damus*
> >> Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
> >> To:* PMC members mailing list*
> >> Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
> >> Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev]
> Transition Plan for
> >> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
> >> willingness to commit to the continued
> vitality of these
> >> components! It's great to see such support.
> >>
> >> Just to be clear, again: as I understand it,
> Termination
> >> Review is the only process by which a
> project's committer
> >> team might be changed /en masse/ on events
> such as this,
> >> and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders
> is always
> >> that the project continue under new leadership
> with a new
> >> committer team.
> >>
> >> If there is another mechanism available, or if the
> >> Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please
> let me know!
> >> I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
> >> willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
> >> approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
> >> positions that they would not, under normal
> >> circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.
> >>
> >> Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC
> reps for the
> >> projects involved?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello, my PMC,
> >>
> >> As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
> >> some time now. That interval is now coming to
> an end, to
> >> my great relief.
> >>
> >> However, in my new employment, the job description does
> >> not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
> >> Modeling components on which I am currently a
> committer.
> >> Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
> >> from the MDD sphere.
> >>
> >> I would not be able to contribute as a
> committer on these
> >> components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
> >> community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
> >> personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
> >> committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
> >> Query, Transaction, and Validation components
> as of next
> >> week.
> >>
> >> The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
> >> on these components. As I understand the
> Eclipse process,
> >> a Project that finds itself without any committers
> >> proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
> >> project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
> >> Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
> >> process (in which these components that are still
> >> Components would be Projects) should apply?
> >>
> >> Please advise.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Christian
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