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Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components?
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Hi Ed,
Right, I have forgotten your name. So, I updated the proposed committers
list :-) .
Welcome aboard ;-)
lead : Freddy Allilaire
committers :
Anthony Hunter
Bernd Kolb
another SAP guy
Laurent Goubet
Ed Willink
Regards,
Freddy.
Ed Willink a écrit :
Hi
I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
that I'm the only person to have contributed sufficiently to merit
promotion to a committer under normal circumstances, and given that
I have indicated that I am happy to contribute further to the project.
Regards
Ed Willink
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[mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freddy
Allilaire
Sent: 16 March 2009 15:05
To: PMC members mailing list; Ed Merks
Cc: Laurent Goubet
Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL
andEMF"QTV" Components?
Hi Ed,
Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
lead : Freddy Allilaire
committers :
Anthony Hunter
Bernd Kolb
another SAP guy ;-)
Laurent Goubet
Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
Regards,
Freddy
Ed Merks a écrit :
Guys,
I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a
lead, for each
component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
that list.
Cheers,
Ed
Anthony Hunter wrote:
So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components
on your own
time until a termination review?
Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
components to take over next week, with the provision that things
could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
Cheers...
Anthony
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Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
Phone: 613-270-4613
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---03/12/2009 10:16:29
AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has
be"Christian W.
Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for
your prompt
input. That has been my understanding, too.
From:
"Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
03/12/2009 10:16 AM
Subject:
[modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
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Hi, Kenn,
Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic:
it should
be called the
"Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project
Review." :-)
I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews
of these
components and send them out for feed-back before asking
the EMO to
schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that
there is,
in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these
components with
new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new
road-map,
committer team, and leadership for these components.
Thanks!
Christian
On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
Christian,
The process for “vaulting of individuals into committer
positions” IS the Termination Review, AFAIK.
To be clear,
a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
the community the chance to step up and
potentially do a
reboot. I don’t think we can/should replace all of the
committers (only one in this case) with new
ones via the
usual voting process unless we can justify the new
committers based on meritocracy…
Cheers,
*Kenn Hussey
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[_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
*Christian W.Damus*
Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
To:* PMC members mailing list*
Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev]
Transition Plan for
MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
Hi,
Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
willingness to commit to the continued
vitality of these
components! It's great to see such support.
Just to be clear, again: as I understand it,
Termination
Review is the only process by which a
project's committer
team might be changed /en masse/ on events
such as this,
and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders
is always
that the project continue under new leadership
with a new
committer team.
If there is another mechanism available, or if the
Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please
let me know!
I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
positions that they would not, under normal
circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.
Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC
reps for the
projects involved?
Thanks,
Christian
On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
Hello, my PMC,
As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
some time now. That interval is now coming to
an end, to
my great relief.
However, in my new employment, the job description does
not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
Modeling components on which I am currently a
committer.
Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
from the MDD sphere.
I would not be able to contribute as a
committer on these
components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
Query, Transaction, and Validation components
as of next
week.
The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
on these components. As I understand the
Eclipse process,
a Project that finds itself without any committers
proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
process (in which these components that are still
Components would be Projects) should apply?
Please advise.
Thanks,
Christian
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