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RE: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components?
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Hi Ed,
Agreed, there is no need to exclude anyone who has demonstrated commitment the the project, especially those who have contributed to it in the past. We will add you to the list.
Cheers...
Anthony
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Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
Phone: 613-270-4613
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"Ed Willink" ---03/16/2009 03:10:00 PM---Hi I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
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RE: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL andEMF"QTV" Components? |
Hi
I'm puzzled that I'm not one of the proposed MDT-OCL committers given
that I'm the only person to have contributed sufficiently to merit
promotion to a committer under normal circumstances, and given that
I have indicated that I am happy to contribute further to the project.
Regards
Ed Willink
> -----Original Message-----
> From: modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:modeling-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freddy
> Allilaire
> Sent: 16 March 2009 15:05
> To: PMC members mailing list; Ed Merks
> Cc: Laurent Goubet
> Subject: Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL
> andEMF"QTV" Components?
>
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
>
> lead : Freddy Allilaire
> committers :
> Anthony Hunter
> Bernd Kolb
> another SAP guy ;-)
> Laurent Goubet
>
> Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Freddy
>
> Ed Merks a écrit :
> > Guys,
> >
> > I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
> > simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
> > expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a
> lead, for each
> > component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
> > that list.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > Anthony Hunter wrote:
> >>
> >> So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components
> on your own
> >> time until a termination review?
> >>
> >> Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
> >> components to take over next week, with the provision that things
> >> could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
> >>
> >> Cheers...
> >> Anthony
> >> --
> >> Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
> >> IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
> >> Phone: 613-270-4613
> >>
> >>
> >> Inactive hide details for "Christian W. Damus"
> ---03/12/2009 10:16:29
> >> AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has
> be"Christian W.
> >> Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for
> your prompt
> >> input. That has been my understanding, too.
> >>
> >>
> >> From:
> >> "Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> To:
> >> PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >> Date:
> >> 03/12/2009 10:16 AM
> >>
> >> Subject:
> >> [modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
> >> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
> >>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi, Kenn,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic:
> it should
> >> be called the
> >>
> "Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project
> Review." :-)
> >>
> >> I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews
> of these
> >> components and send them out for feed-back before asking
> the EMO to
> >> schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that
> there is,
> >> in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these
> components with
> >> new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
> >> recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
> >> parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new
> road-map,
> >> committer team, and leadership for these components.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
> >>
> >> Christian,
> >>
> >> The process for “vaulting of individuals into committer
> >> positions” IS the Termination Review, AFAIK.
> To be clear,
> >> a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
> >> project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
> >> the community the chance to step up and
> potentially do a
> >> reboot. I don’t think we can/should replace all of the
> >> committers (only one in this case) with new
> ones via the
> >> usual voting process unless we can justify the new
> >> committers based on meritocracy…
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> *Kenn Hussey
> >> Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
> >> *<image001.jpg>* <http://www.embarcadero.com/>
> >> *Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. |
> **www.embarcadero.com*
> >> <http://www.embarcadero.com/>*
> >> 82 Peter Street, Second Floor | Toronto, ON M5V 2G5*_
> >> _*Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*
> >> <mailto:Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
> >> Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105*
> >>
> >> *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
> >> <mailto:emf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
> >> *Christian W.Damus*
> >> Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
> >> To:* PMC members mailing list*
> >> Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
> >> Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev]
> Transition Plan for
> >> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
> >> willingness to commit to the continued
> vitality of these
> >> components! It's great to see such support.
> >>
> >> Just to be clear, again: as I understand it,
> Termination
> >> Review is the only process by which a
> project's committer
> >> team might be changed /en masse/ on events
> such as this,
> >> and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders
> is always
> >> that the project continue under new leadership
> with a new
> >> committer team.
> >>
> >> If there is another mechanism available, or if the
> >> Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please
> let me know!
> >> I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
> >> willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
> >> approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
> >> positions that they would not, under normal
> >> circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.
> >>
> >> Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC
> reps for the
> >> projects involved?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Christian
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello, my PMC,
> >>
> >> As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
> >> some time now. That interval is now coming to
> an end, to
> >> my great relief.
> >>
> >> However, in my new employment, the job description does
> >> not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
> >> Modeling components on which I am currently a
> committer.
> >> Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
> >> from the MDD sphere.
> >>
> >> I would not be able to contribute as a
> committer on these
> >> components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
> >> community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
> >> personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
> >> committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
> >> Query, Transaction, and Validation components
> as of next
> >> week.
> >>
> >> The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
> >> on these components. As I understand the
> Eclipse process,
> >> a Project that finds itself without any committers
> >> proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
> >> project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
> >> Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
> >> process (in which these components that are still
> >> Components would be Projects) should apply?
> >>
> >> Please advise.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Christian
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