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Re: [modeling-pmc] Transition Plan for MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
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I suggest that each proposed committer present a list of contributions they
have made to MDT OCL, in order for each to be evaluated on the meritocratic
basis upon which Eclipse projects operate.
Thanks,
Rich
On 3/16/09 11:04 AM, "Freddy Allilaire" <freddy.allilaire@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> Here is the proposed set of committers for MDT/OCL subproject
>
> lead : Freddy Allilaire
> committers :
> Anthony Hunter
> Bernd Kolb
> another SAP guy ;-)
> Laurent Goubet
>
> Bernd : we'll soon need the "SAP guy" name ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Freddy
>
> Ed Merks a écrit :
>> Guys,
>>
>> I've asked the EMO about how to handle this and they are fine if we
>> simply identify for each component a new set of committers. So I'll
>> expect to see a proposed set of committers, including a lead, for each
>> component *by the end of next week*, and then I'll go forward with
>> that list.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Anthony Hunter wrote:
>>>
>>> So Christian, are you willing to baby sit the components on your own
>>> time until a termination review?
>>>
>>> Or would you rather vote in a some committers on each of these
>>> components to take over next week, with the provision that things
>>> could change based on the to be scheduled termination review?
>>>
>>> Cheers...
>>> Anthony
>>> --
>>> Anthony Hunter mailto:anthonyh@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> Software Development Manager: Eclipse Open Source Components
>>> IBM Rational Software: Aurora / GEF / GMF / Modeling Tools
>>> Phone: 613-270-4613
>>>
>>>
>>> Inactive hide details for "Christian W. Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29
>>> AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt input. That has be"Christian W.
>>> Damus" ---03/12/2009 10:16:29 AM---Hi, Kenn, Thanks for your prompt
>>> input. That has been my understanding, too.
>>>
>>>
>>> From:
>>> "Christian W. Damus" <give.a.damus@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> To:
>>> PMC members mailing list <modeling-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Date:
>>> 03/12/2009 10:16 AM
>>>
>>> Subject:
>>> [modeling-pmc] Re: [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
>>> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Kenn,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your prompt input. That has been my understanding, too.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the name of this review mechanism is problematic: it should
>>> be called the
>>> "Please-help-Eclipse-to-decide-what-to-do-with-this-project Review." :-)
>>>
>>> I shall work up some slides, then, for termination reviews of these
>>> components and send them out for feed-back before asking the EMO to
>>> schedule the reviews. These slides will make it clear that there is,
>>> in my opinion, sufficient interest to re-boot these components with
>>> new committers under new leadership and that this should be the
>>> recommended course of action. As I understand it, the interested
>>> parties will have an opportunity to collaborate on the new road-map,
>>> committer team, and leadership for these components.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12-Mar-09, at 8:50 AM, Kenn Hussey wrote:
>>>
>>> Christian,
>>>
>>> The process for ³vaulting of individuals into committer
>>> positions² IS the Termination Review, AFAIK. To be clear,
>>> a Termination Review does not automatically mean the
>>> project/component will be terminated/archived; it gives
>>> the community the chance to step up and potentially do a
>>> reboot. I don¹t think we can/should replace all of the
>>> committers (only one in this case) with new ones via the
>>> usual voting process unless we can justify the new
>>> committers based on meritocracy
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> *Kenn Hussey
>>> Program Manager, Modeling and Design Solutions*
>>> *<image001.jpg>* <http://www.embarcadero.com/>
>>> *Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. | **www.embarcadero.com*
>>> <http://www.embarcadero.com/>*
>>> 82 Peter Street, Second Floor | Toronto, ON M5V 2G5*_
>>> _*Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx*
>>> <mailto:Kenn.Hussey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*
>>> Office: 416-593-1585 x9296 Mobile: 613-301-9105*
>>>
>>> *From:* _emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_
>>> <mailto:emf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> [_mailto:emf-dev-bounces@eclipse.org_] *On Behalf Of
>>> *Christian W.Damus*
>>> Sent:* Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:40 AM*
>>> To:* PMC members mailing list*
>>> Cc:* MDT OCL mailing list; Eclipse Modelling Framework*
>>> Subject:* [emf-dev] Re: [mdt-ocl.dev] Transition Plan for
>>> MDT OCL and EMF"QTV" Components?
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Anthony, Cédric, and Bernd for expressing
>>> willingness to commit to the continued vitality of these
>>> components! It's great to see such support.
>>>
>>> Just to be clear, again: as I understand it, Termination
>>> Review is the only process by which a project's committer
>>> team might be changed /en masse/ on events such as this,
>>> and the preferred outcome for all stakeholders is always
>>> that the project continue under new leadership with a new
>>> committer team.
>>>
>>> If there is another mechanism available, or if the
>>> Modeling PMC can direct a transition, please let me know!
>>> I prefer a smooth transition of these components into
>>> willing and capable hands. For example, if the PMC can
>>> approve the vaulting of individuals into committer
>>> positions that they would not, under normal
>>> circumstances, yet have earned, then that works for me.
>>>
>>> Kenn? Ed? What is your recommendation as PMC reps for the
>>> projects involved?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11-Mar-09, at 5:30 PM, Christian W. Damus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello, my PMC,
>>>
>>> As most of you already know, I have been unemployed for
>>> some time now. That interval is now coming to an end, to
>>> my great relief.
>>>
>>> However, in my new employment, the job description does
>>> not include time to spend on development of the Eclipse
>>> Modeling components on which I am currently a committer.
>>> Nor would I expect it to, as the work is quite removed
>>> from the MDD sphere.
>>>
>>> I would not be able to contribute as a committer on these
>>> components to the standard expected of the Eclipse
>>> community, and certainly not my own standard, on my own
>>> personal time. Therefore, I shall need to relinquish my
>>> committer rights on the MDT OCL component and the EMF
>>> Query, Transaction, and Validation components as of next
>>> week.
>>>
>>> The problem is, of course, that I am the only committer
>>> on these components. As I understand the Eclipse process,
>>> a Project that finds itself without any committers
>>> proceeds to Termination Review in the hope that the
>>> project can be re-staffed. Is the same true of
>>> Components? Can we assume that the rules of the new
>>> process (in which these components that are still
>>> Components would be Projects) should apply?
>>>
>>> Please advise.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Christian
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