Re: AW: [jwt-dev] Eclipse Summit Europe talk submissions open

[Marc Dutoo <marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi all

Florian, nice ideas here !

If we go the Aspects way, we should code the generation wizard before 
then in order to improve ease of use, and maybe talk about it to Ed Mercks.
If we go BPMN2, maybe an ATL transfo to the EMF model and some exchanges 
with the guys of the Eclipse project seem in line.
The partners you mentioned for both are simply an excellent start.


Chris, nice analysis.

As you say, a walkthrough is the most engaging, interesting and "big 
picturesque".
So why not create one that depicts how to add a feature to JWT, encompassing
  * the model (through Aspects),
  * the views (using Views)
  * and the execution / runtime (transformation and / or 
TaskEngineFramework Action on Scarbo and / or ApplicationAdapter on 
AgilPro) ?

Such a feature could be as simple as "send an email", or possibly more 
complex or domain specific, or linked to other Eclipse projects in order 
to show other Eclipse projects might benefit from JWT (ex. Aspects that 
refer to external EMF models defined using the corresponding editor in 
Eclipse like SCA / SCA Editor or BPMN2, or simply model the Eclipse IP 
Process, or even how to manage Mylyn tasks in a workflow...).

Regards,
Marc

Christian Saad a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> concerning the CFP I thought a bit on what types of presentations we could
> have:
>
>
> Single feature presentation (like e.g. aspects)
>
> Pro:
> -Might even be interesting for a non-BPM audience
> -Allows to go into detail
> Con:
> -Might get boring for the audience to here only about one subject
> -No big picture
>
>
> Multiple feature presentation
>
> Pro:
> -Gives an overview over current development/interesting new features
> Con:
> -Also the big picture on how to use JWT might be missing
> -No connection between different presented features
>
>
> A "walkthrough" (like the EclipseCon presentation)
>
> Pro:
> -Probably gives the best impression on how to use JWT
> Con:
> -Already done
> -No specific highlight
>
>
> >From the list of suggestions you made, I like the idea of presenting the
> aspect mechanism the best because it has the potential - like Florian said -
> to attract a bigger audience.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
>
>   
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Im Auftrag von Florian Lautenbacher
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009 11:44
> > An: 'Java Workflow Toolbox'
> > Betreff: AW: [jwt-dev] Eclipse Summit Europe talk submissions open
> >
> > Hi Marc,
> >
> > in my opinion it would be a good opportunity to present our aspect-
> > oriented
> > extension mechanism here. I guess a talk entitled "Aspect-oriented
> > modeling"
> > would be interesting for quite a lot of persons. I already discussed
> > this
> > with other people (Embarcadero, exxcellent solutions, etc.) who might
> > be
> > interested maybe in joining such a talk.
> >
> > Another topic more related to Chris development would be the new view
> > mechanism or JWT in general with all its functions. Each of those
> > topics
> > might include Scarbo or Galileo.
> >
> > Another idea for a talk would be BPMN2 - we haven't got support for it
> > in
> > JWT yet, but there are others (e.g. Koen) that are working on it and
> > maybe
> > we could make a talk together!?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Florian
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Im
> > Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
> > Gesendet: 19 June 2009 17:34
> > An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> > Betreff: [jwt-dev] Eclipse Summit Europe talk submissions open
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > A talk about e4 ? ;)
> >
> > Better yet, about extending JWT ! JWT and its extensibility APIs,
> > exemplified by AgilPro (BPEL cgf ?) and Scarbo (Bonita TaskEngine ?)...
> >
> > Anyway, the idea box is open :
> >
> > http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2009/submissions
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marc
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