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Hi there,

maybe we should learn from last time where our submissions were either
shortened hardly or not accepted at all. Therefore, I guess, it would be a
good idea to propose several talks each one with a different focus (and with
different presenters?), so we can highlight JWT in as many talks as
possible.
I'm currently in contact with Kenn Hussey from Embarcadero about the aspects
as he's working on similar things, so maybe we'll have a talk about
aspect-oriented modeling together with others to describe this from
different angles. Then I don't think that it is boring for the participants
anymore.

Best regards,

Florian


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im
Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
Gesendet: 23 June 2009 13:49
An: Java Workflow Toolbox
Betreff: Re: AW: [jwt-dev] Eclipse Summit Europe talk submissions open

Hi all

Florian, nice ideas here !

If we go the Aspects way, we should code the generation wizard before then
in order to improve ease of use, and maybe talk about it to Ed Mercks.
If we go BPMN2, maybe an ATL transfo to the EMF model and some exchanges
with the guys of the Eclipse project seem in line.
The partners you mentioned for both are simply an excellent start.


Chris, nice analysis.

As you say, a walkthrough is the most engaging, interesting and "big
picturesque".
So why not create one that depicts how to add a feature to JWT, encompassing
   * the model (through Aspects),
   * the views (using Views)
   * and the execution / runtime (transformation and / or
TaskEngineFramework Action on Scarbo and / or ApplicationAdapter on
AgilPro) ?

Such a feature could be as simple as "send an email", or possibly more
complex or domain specific, or linked to other Eclipse projects in order to
show other Eclipse projects might benefit from JWT (ex. Aspects that refer
to external EMF models defined using the corresponding editor in Eclipse
like SCA / SCA Editor or BPMN2, or simply model the Eclipse IP Process, or
even how to manage Mylyn tasks in a workflow...).

Regards,
Marc

Christian Saad a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> concerning the CFP I thought a bit on what types of presentations we 
> could
> have:
>
>
> Single feature presentation (like e.g. aspects)
>
> Pro:
> -Might even be interesting for a non-BPM audience -Allows to go into 
> detail
> Con:
> -Might get boring for the audience to here only about one subject -No 
> big picture
>
>
> Multiple feature presentation
>
> Pro:
> -Gives an overview over current development/interesting new features
> Con:
> -Also the big picture on how to use JWT might be missing -No 
> connection between different presented features
>
>
> A "walkthrough" (like the EclipseCon presentation)
>
> Pro:
> -Probably gives the best impression on how to use JWT
> Con:
> -Already done
> -No specific highlight
>
>
> >From the list of suggestions you made, I like the idea of presenting 
> >the
> aspect mechanism the best because it has the potential - like Florian 
> said - to attract a bigger audience.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
>
>   
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Im Auftrag von Florian Lautenbacher
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2009 11:44
>> An: 'Java Workflow Toolbox'
>> Betreff: AW: [jwt-dev] Eclipse Summit Europe talk submissions open
>>
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> in my opinion it would be a good opportunity to present our aspect- 
>> oriented extension mechanism here. I guess a talk entitled 
>> "Aspect-oriented modeling"
>> would be interesting for quite a lot of persons. I already discussed 
>> this with other people (Embarcadero, exxcellent solutions, etc.) who 
>> might be interested maybe in joining such a talk.
>>
>> Another topic more related to Chris development would be the new view 
>> mechanism or JWT in general with all its functions. Each of those 
>> topics might include Scarbo or Galileo.
>>
>> Another idea for a talk would be BPMN2 - we haven't got support for 
>> it in JWT yet, but there are others (e.g. Koen) that are working on 
>> it and maybe we could make a talk together!?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Florian
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>> Im
>> Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
>> Gesendet: 19 June 2009 17:34
>> An: Java Workflow Toolbox
>> Betreff: [jwt-dev] Eclipse Summit Europe talk submissions open
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> A talk about e4 ? ;)
>>
>> Better yet, about extending JWT ! JWT and its extensibility APIs, 
>> exemplified by AgilPro (BPEL cgf ?) and Scarbo (Bonita TaskEngine ?)...
>>
>> Anyway, the idea box is open :
>>
>> http://www.eclipsecon.org/summiteurope2009/submissions
>>
>> Regards,
>> Marc
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