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Re[4]: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions

Hi Alex,

My personal opinion also is that IP is a horible name but maybe as BJ
propose we can use long bundle symbolic name?

-Pavlin

AB> I'm glad I'm not alone. I've asked the question to a wider audience to
AB> see if they'd get the reference:

AB> http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t98469.html

AB> On 07/07/07, Remy Chi Jian Suen <remy.suen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> You're not alone, Alex. I think ip is a horrible name.
>> initprovisioning or initprov or something would've been better.
>> There's just no way that someone's going to know that 'ip' is 'initial
>> provisioning'.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rem
>>
>> On 7/7/07, Alex Blewitt <alex.blewitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Am I really the only one who thinks '.ip'  is a bad name?
>> >
>> > Alex.
>> >
>> > On 07/07/07, Simon Kaegi <Simon_Kaegi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > That's great! I've just done a quick sanity check and everything compiles,
>> > > starts and is ready to try out.
>> > >  Thanks.
>> > >
>> > > For anyone wanting to take a look, the following new projects were added to
>> > > the incubator.
>> > >
>> > > 1) org.eclipse.equinox.ds
>> > > 2) org.eclipse.equinox.io
>> > > 3) org.eclipse.equinox.ip
>> > > 4) org.eclipse.equinox.util
>> > > 5) org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin
>> > >
>> > > I had one cosmetic question for equinox.util. Currently the BSN is
>> > > "org.eclipse.equinox.util.putifull" -- is there some reason it's not just
>> > > org.eclipse.equinox.util?
>> > > -Simon
>> > >
>> > > equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/07/2007 06:41:23 AM:
>> > >
>> > > > In CVS under your proposed naming.
>> > > >
>> > > > -Pavlin
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > OK, I'm not particular about the names right now.  Since we already
>> > > > have a DS bundle lets just use org.eclipse.equinox.ds for
>> > > > declarative services.
>> > > >
>> > > > I also like org.eclipse.equinox.ip for initial provisioning but
>> > > > thought it might be to short :)  but it is snappy.
>> > > >
>> > > > Pavlin, if these are ok with you please release with the names org.
>> > > > eclipse.equinox.ds and org.eclipse.equinox.ip.  As I said before it
>> > > > is no big deal to rename the bundles if needed in the incubator later.
>> > > >
>> > > > Tom
>> > > >
>> > > > Chris Aniszczyk/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
>> > > > Sent by: equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > 07/05/2007 09:34 PM
>> > > >
>> > > > Please respond to
>> > > > Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > > To
>> > > >
>> > > > Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > > cc
>> > > >
>> > > > Subject
>> > > >
>> > > > Re: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions
>> > > >
>> > > > as an outsider, +1 for DS instead of SCR, there's like 5 people that
>> > > > would get the SCR reference :)
>> > > >
>> > > > initialprovisioning is really long....
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > > > ---
>> > > > Chris Aniszczyk | IBM Lotus | Eclipse Committer | http://mea-bloga.
>> > > > blogspot.com | +1.860.839.2465
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed] Jeff McAffer ---07/05/2007 09:13:02 PM---I agree
>> > > > with all/most Tom said. In the end we should look to have just one
>> > > > DS implementation, Ultimately I suggest that it be
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > From:
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > Jeff McAffer <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > To:
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > Date:
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > 07/05/2007 09:13 PM
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > Subject:
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > > Re: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions
>> > > >
>> > > > I agree with all/most Tom said. In the end we should look to have
>> > > > just one DS implementation, Ultimately I suggest that it be called
>> > > > o.e.e.ds. Never did like "scr". I'm a little bummed by o.e.e.
>> > > > initialprovisioning. o.e.e.ip is snappier and I doubt that anyone
>> > > > would get confused with Intelectual property, or Internet Protocol
>> > > > or, ... In any event, it is a mild dislike so...
>> > > >
>> > > > Lets get the code in the incubator and move forward.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jeff
>> > > >
>> > > > Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > > Sent by: equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > > 07/05/2007 03:51 PM
>> > > >
>> > > > Please respond to
>> > > > Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > > To
>> > > >
>> > > > Equinox development mailing list <equinox-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > > cc
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > >
>> > > > Subject
>> > > >
>> > > > Re: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > >
>> > > > [image removed]
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi Simon,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I can commit the sources in the CVS. Here are the open issues
>> > > > > that should be resolved prior moving code to the CVS.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1. Naming.
>> > > > > Following the discussion the last proposed naming is:
>> > > > > 1.1 org.eclipse.equionx.initialprovisioning
>> > > > > other suggestion: org.eclipse.equionx.ip
>> > > >
>> > > > +1 for org.eclipse.equinox.initialprovisioning
>> > > >
>> > > > I think this name will reduce an confusion with the
>> > > > rest of the equinox provisioning work.
>> > > >
>> > > > > 1.2 org.eclipse.equionx.ds
>> > > > > other suggestion: org.eclipse.equionx.scr
>> > > >
>> > > > +1 for org.eclipse.equinox.scr
>> > > >
>> > > > > 1.3 org.eclipse.equinox.io
>> > > > > 1.4 org.eclipse.equinox.util
>> > > > > 1.5 org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2. Replacing. If we use the names org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin and
>> > > > > org.eclipse.equionx.ds they collide with the current one. Can we
>> > > replace
>> > > > > the code in the CVS at this stage directly or temporary other names
>> > > > > will be used?
>> > > >
>> > > > There is no problem replacing the current implementations in the
>> > > > incubator.  To be clear this is under the equinox-incubator directory
>> > > > at dev.eclipse.org:/cvsroot/eclipse.  At this point I suggest we
>> > > > get the initial code released in the incubator.  It is likely that
>> > > > a number of refactorings are going be needed to follow other
>> > > > eclipse coding practices (i.e. using "internal" package names etc.).
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm not fussed on getting all the names correct initially.  We
>> > > > can easily rename them if needed in the incubator.
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 3. javax.microedition.io package
>> > > > > Now it is in Connector services implementation. This is not a good
>> > > > > choice because it is needed only on Java SE VMs. J2ME VMs
>> > > > > contains that package. In our equinox distribution it is a fragment of
>> > > > > the system bundle that is installed only on Java SE VMs.
>> > > > > But initially we can put it inside the connector implementation.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -Pavlin
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I think we should consider separating this out into another bundle and
>> > > > import the packages from org.eclipse.equinox.io (but we can do this
>> > > later).
>> > > > I'm not sure why it has to be a system bundle fragment.  I think we
>> > > should
>> > > > make it a normal bundle (called javax.microedition.io?).
>> > > >
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