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Re: Re[2]: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions


I also think ip is a bit too minimalist. Certtainly as the bundle symbolic name. I am less concerned as the package name.
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"Alex Blewitt" <alex.blewitt@xxxxxxxxx>
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I'm glad I'm not alone. I've asked the question to a wider audience to
see if they'd get the reference:

http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t98469.html

On 07/07/07, Remy Chi Jian Suen <remy.suen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> You're not alone, Alex. I think ip is a horrible name.
> initprovisioning or initprov or something would've been better.
> There's just no way that someone's going to know that 'ip' is 'initial
> provisioning'.
>
> Regards,
> Rem
>
> On 7/7/07, Alex Blewitt <alex.blewitt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Am I really the only one who thinks '.ip'  is a bad name?
> >
> > Alex.
> >
> > On 07/07/07, Simon Kaegi <Simon_Kaegi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > That's great! I've just done a quick sanity check and everything compiles,
> > > starts and is ready to try out.
> > >  Thanks.
> > >
> > > For anyone wanting to take a look, the following new projects were added to
> > > the incubator.
> > >
> > > 1) org.eclipse.equinox.ds
> > > 2) org.eclipse.equinox.io
> > > 3) org.eclipse.equinox.ip
> > > 4) org.eclipse.equinox.util
> > > 5) org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin
> > >
> > > I had one cosmetic question for equinox.util. Currently the BSN is
> > > "org.eclipse.equinox.util.putifull" -- is there some reason it's not just
> > > org.eclipse.equinox.util?
> > > -Simon
> > >
> > > equinox-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/07/2007 06:41:23 AM:
> > >
> > > > In CVS under your proposed naming.
> > > >
> > > > -Pavlin
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, I'm not particular about the names right now.  Since we already
> > > > have a DS bundle lets just use org.eclipse.equinox.ds for
> > > > declarative services.
> > > >
> > > > I also like org.eclipse.equinox.ip for initial provisioning but
> > > > thought it might be to short :)  but it is snappy.
> > > >
> > > > Pavlin, if these are ok with you please release with the names org.
> > > > eclipse.equinox.ds and org.eclipse.equinox.ip.  As I said before it
> > > > is no big deal to rename the bundles if needed in the incubator later.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > Chris Aniszczyk/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
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> > > > Re: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions
> > > >
> > > > as an outsider, +1 for DS instead of SCR, there's like 5 people that
> > > > would get the SCR reference :)
> > > >
> > > > initialprovisioning is really long....
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Chris Aniszczyk | IBM Lotus | Eclipse Committer | http://mea-bloga.
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> > > >
> > > > [image removed] Jeff McAffer ---07/05/2007 09:13:02 PM---I agree
> > > > with all/most Tom said. In the end we should look to have just one
> > > > DS implementation, Ultimately I suggest that it be
> > > >
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> > > > Jeff McAffer <Jeff_McAffer@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > > Re: [equinox-dev] Prosyst contributions
> > > >
> > > > I agree with all/most Tom said. In the end we should look to have
> > > > just one DS implementation, Ultimately I suggest that it be called
> > > > o.e.e.ds. Never did like "scr". I'm a little bummed by o.e.e.
> > > > initialprovisioning. o.e.e.ip is snappier and I doubt that anyone
> > > > would get confused with Intelectual property, or Internet Protocol
> > > > or, ... In any event, it is a mild dislike so...
> > > >
> > > > Lets get the code in the incubator and move forward.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Watson <tjwatson@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > > > Hi Simon,
> > > > >
> > > > > I can commit the sources in the CVS. Here are the open issues
> > > > > that should be resolved prior moving code to the CVS.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Naming.
> > > > > Following the discussion the last proposed naming is:
> > > > > 1.1 org.eclipse.equionx.initialprovisioning
> > > > > other suggestion: org.eclipse.equionx.ip
> > > >
> > > > +1 for org.eclipse.equinox.initialprovisioning
> > > >
> > > > I think this name will reduce an confusion with the
> > > > rest of the equinox provisioning work.
> > > >
> > > > > 1.2 org.eclipse.equionx.ds
> > > > > other suggestion: org.eclipse.equionx.scr
> > > >
> > > > +1 for org.eclipse.equinox.scr
> > > >
> > > > > 1.3 org.eclipse.equinox.io
> > > > > 1.4 org.eclipse.equinox.util
> > > > > 1.5 org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Replacing. If we use the names org.eclipse.equinox.wireadmin and
> > > > > org.eclipse.equionx.ds they collide with the current one. Can we
> > > replace
> > > > > the code in the CVS at this stage directly or temporary other names
> > > > > will be used?
> > > >
> > > > There is no problem replacing the current implementations in the
> > > > incubator.  To be clear this is under the equinox-incubator directory
> > > > at dev.eclipse.org:/cvsroot/eclipse.  At this point I suggest we
> > > > get the initial code released in the incubator.  It is likely that
> > > > a number of refactorings are going be needed to follow other
> > > > eclipse coding practices (i.e. using "internal" package names etc.).
> > > >
> > > > I'm not fussed on getting all the names correct initially.  We
> > > > can easily rename them if needed in the incubator.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. javax.microedition.io package
> > > > > Now it is in Connector services implementation. This is not a good
> > > > > choice because it is needed only on Java SE VMs. J2ME VMs
> > > > > contains that package. In our equinox distribution it is a fragment of
> > > > > the system bundle that is installed only on Java SE VMs.
> > > > > But initially we can put it inside the connector implementation.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Pavlin
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think we should consider separating this out into another bundle and
> > > > import the packages from org.eclipse.equinox.io (but we can do this
> > > later).
> > > > I'm not sure why it has to be a system bundle fragment.  I think we
> > > should
> > > > make it a normal bundle (called javax.microedition.io?).
> > > >
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