Re: [epp-dev] Status of Galileo M5 builds

[Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for doing this!

(I removed the 'product' file part because this was my initial thought
about making things easier, but now I think it will be even easier for
package maintainers to use the EPP wizard to specify a few installable
units that should be part of the package)

Markus

2009/3/2 Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Okay. I'm on it.
>
> The changes should be live in the next minute or so. Comments welcomed.
>
> Wayne
>
> Markus Knauer wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, let's remove this button (temporarily).
>>
>> Currently it does not make sense to have it on this page, but it will
>> make sense as soon as we will have Galileo Milestone packages on the
>> packaging site (yes, this packaging site is able to distinct between
>> past=Ganymede / present=GanymedeSR2 / future=GalileoMx versions).
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> 2009/3/2 Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>>
>>> The middle button on http://local.eclipse.org/epp/, labeled "Milestones",
>>> points to /downloads/packages. I'm not sure that I understand the
>>> connection. I expect this button to lead me to the milestones for the
>>> latest
>>> build.
>>>
>>> Should we temporarily remove the button, or is it supposed to point
>>> somewhere else?
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> Wayne Beaton wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay. I'll put something together based on your words below and push it
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> Markus Knauer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it if you have your committer hat on... yes, I would be very
>>>>> thankful if you could do this. I already added a few words to
>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/epp/download.php, but this is probably not the
>>>>> place where everybody expects the milestone status.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Markus
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/3/2 Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It'd still be nice to see a note on the website that indicates this to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> average consumer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW, one of the reasons why Eric was invited to join the Technology
>>>>>> PMC
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> because he primarily looks at the projects from the outside-in. If
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> having troubles or concerns about this, then there's a good chance
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> significant part of our community is also having trouble with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putting my project committer hat on... would you like me to try and
>>>>>> add
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> few words to the site describing the issue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Markus Knauer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the communication is not that bad... ;-) Maybe you missed an
>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>> email from January 7th that I sent to different mailing lists, such
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> cross-projects, planning-council, etc. ("EPP planning update for
>>>>>>> Galileo"):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This year we are going to change to use p2 to build the packages.
>>>>>>>> We will also be changing how the packages are defined to use the
>>>>>>>> PDE product file format. The plan is to have both these changes
>>>>>>>> done and an initial build completed by EPP M5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately this took longer than I expected and after going a step
>>>>>>> into the wrong direction, I think we found a p2 way to build the
>>>>>>> packages that is easier for us (and the package maintainers). There
>>>>>>> are still some things to work out, but I hope to have packages
>>>>>>> available until the end of this week.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Markus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/3/2 Eric Rizzo <erizzo-eclipse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two questions about Galileo M5 builds:
>>>>>>>> 1) what is the status? The Galileo wiki page
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Galileo_Simultaneous_Release#Milestones_and_Release_Candidates)
>>>>>>>> says they were supposed to be available more than 2 weeks ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) WHY is there no information available on the EPP home page or the
>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>> about the status? That is unacceptable, especially since the EPP
>>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>> has a
>>>>>>>> link to download "milestones" but it points to the Ganymede SR2
>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More generally, the EPP team is doing a very poor job of
>>>>>>>> communicating
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the user community. Putting my Technology PMC hat on, this is
>>>>>>>> something that
>>>>>>>> must be corrected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eric
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