| Hi, Anthony,
The Query plan, as it will be published at the end of September for approval by the Board, is to do nothing. If the Board has a problem with that, then I suppose we will be required to hold a termination review. If any member of the community is dissatisfied with the plan, the Grievance Process allows them to seek action that may result in the PMC, the EMO, or the Board imposing a termination review.
A normal outcome of the Termination Review process, and the one that Eclipse desires, is that the project be re-stocked with a committer base that will continue to develop it. Presumably, these committers would be individuals that attend the review and state their willingness to continue the project.
The Eclipse Community at large has every conceivable opportunity to ensure the continuation of any project.
All that aside, I will "wait and see" what happens in this release. I, personally, and my employer do not have any stake in this project. So, I am not likely to continue as a committer post Galileo, which would at that time force a termination review, anyway. A project cannot exist with zero committers.
I think that's a superset of the answer that you were looking for ;-)
Cheers,
Christian
On 18-Sep-08, at 3:25 PM, Anthony Hunter wrote: Hi Ed/Christian,
Just to end this thread, we are not terminating SDO or EMF Query and both will be in Galileo. Right?
Cheers...
Anthony
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<graycol.gif>Ed Merks ---09/17/2008 02:25:14 AM---Christian, Like SDO, I see Query as having little real value to justify its
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Christian,
Like SDO, I see Query as having little real value to justify its existence. So like Query, I'm considering terminating the SDO component. Components that don't have a significant established user base and for which there is no interesting future don't really don't have a place at Eclipse. If there is really only one user, they can of course maintain the source themselves.
Christian W. Damus wrote: Anthony,
I forgot to answer your other questions. I don't know about GMF, but Transaction build only requires the Query for the 3-in-1 feature that it publishes to the Ganymede/Galileo builds. The Transaction and Validation components have no dependencies, and can build without it.
cW
On 16-Sep-08, at 1:47 PM, Anthony Hunter wrote:
Hi Christian,
We are getting more information for you, but IBM makes use of EMF Query in its products. So it cannot go away for Galileo. We would be fine with creating a 1.3 version that has no new content, but just confirms from a build and smoke test perspective that it still works and is at the high standard of quality as the other components in Galileo.
I am wondering why EMF Transaction and GMF have a build dependency on EMF Query for the last three years ? (I.e. EMF Query is listed on the dependencies on the download page).
Cheers...
Anthony
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[emf-dev] Status of the EMF Query Component |
Hi, all,
The EMF project has had, since Callisto days, a Query component providing a Java API with an SQL-ish feel for structured searches in EObject data. Since its 1.0 release, this component has not added any new features except for keeping up with its dependencies: following EMF Core in adopting J2SE 5.0, and adopting new OCL APIs.
It seems to me that this component never did show much "traction" from the user community and I have no plan to initiate any new work for the Galileo release. A summary of Bugzilla activity looks like this: - Raised/resolved since the Ganymede (1.2) release: 0 / 0
- Raised/resolved since the Europa (1.1) release: 9 / 9
- Raised/resolved since the Callisto (1.0) release: 11 / 12
- Raised/resolved since the initial commit: 11 / 10
Note that a significant number of these bugs were releng-type bugs tagged against the Query component but applying to common/replicated artifacts and processes across the EMF Query/Transaction/Validation components and also MDT OCL.
So, my questions to the community are: - Do you use the EMF Query component?
- Are you interested in continuing to develop the EMF Query component?
- I am happy to help contributors to earn committer rights by working with them on their patches.
Your feed-back is very important to determining whether this component will have a 1.3 release in Galileo, whether it should just produce a maintenance release for Galileo, or whether it should proceed to a Termination Review.
Thanks,
Christian
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