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Re: [e4-dev] (My) Working areas for 4.3
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Well you are welcome to take with what I started and contribute.
All sources are available under EPL. My current focus is NOT on writing
this SWT-Port but on getting JavaFX + e4 ready for primetime.
I also offered on my blog that we (BestSolution.at) would certainly be
able to implement this but we'd need funding for it.
Tom
Am 10.08.12 01:45, schrieb Ivan Ooi:
> 90% ? To me this already very good! consider usable! :-)
>
> I will use SWT for JavaFX for front end with animation and more eye
> catching. while SWT for Windows/MacOSX will reserve for
> backend users.
>
> Great to hear that IF 90% really can be reach! ：-D does this mean
> Nebula project MOST of the controls can be run on JavaFX, right ?
>
> Great! Thanks
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Tom Schindl
> <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> Well I already made a prove of concept and so did Doug Schaefer.
>
> See
> https://github.com/tomsontom/e-fx-clipse/tree/master/at.bestsolution.efxclipse.runtime.swt
> and http://tomsondev.bestsolution.at/2012/06/05/almost-totally-crazy/.
>
> Other problems involve e.g. OLE because JavaFX is a lightweight
> container embedding heavy weigt stuff is not working.
>
> What I think is hard to implement in FX is the direct drawing stuff one
> would do through a PaintListener and of course there are missing
> controls in the FX-Space (e.g. no TreeTable control).
>
> So while I guess in 6 months one can get 90% of SWT's API run on FX the
> last 10% are not doable at all.
>
> Tom
>
> Am 08.08.12 15:10, schrieb Mike Wilson:
> >>The other solution is to write an SWT port which use JavaFX as the
> >> rendering technology which is also a big task.
> >>
> > I asked Steve Northover (who is working JavaFX now) about this at one
> > point. He seemed to think it was doable.
> >
> > I'd guess one person for six months would get you an initial port, and
> > then another year or so of tuning/tweaking to make it real.
> >
> > McQ.
> >
> > Inactive hide details for Tom Schindl ---08/06/2012 09:03:24
> AM---That's
> > exactly what e(fx)clipse does. It uses JavaFX all overTom Schindl
> > ---08/06/2012 09:03:24 AM---That's exactly what e(fx)clipse does. It
> > uses JavaFX all over while this is a good approach for RCP-
> >
> > From: Tom Schindl <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> > To: e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:e4-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
> > Date: 08/06/2012 09:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: [e4-dev] (My) Working areas for 4.3
> > Sent by: e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:e4-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > That's exactly what e(fx)clipse does. It uses JavaFX all over
> while this
> > is a good approach for RCP-Applications it is not practical for the
> > Eclipse IDE because you'd have to rewrite all and everything which
> is a
> > very very huge task.
> >
> > The other solution is to write an SWT port which use JavaFX as the
> > rendering technology which is also a big task.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Am 06.08.12 04:33, schrieb Ivan Ooi:
> >> Nice! May I share some ideas ?
> >>
> >> Since SWT do not have any plans on multi touch, gesture,
> animation and
> >> all that. Why not utilize JavaFX ?
> >> Since JavaFX support SWT quite well ( I guess )
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Ivan
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Tom Schindl
> >> <tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:tom.schindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Now that we got 4.2 out I'd like to share what I plan to work on
> in the
> >> 4.3 timeframe.
> >>
> >> Prio 1:
> >> -------
> >> * Native Editor Support in EAP
> >> * JavaFX2 rendering engine (not part of e4 project but my own
> >> e(fx)clipse project)
> >>
> >>
> >> Prior 2:
> >> --------
> >> * Dynamic language switching for EAP
> >> => no static translation resolving via NLS (also important for
> >> multi-user envs like RAP)
> >> * Allowing to nest an MSashContainer in an MPartStack (378298)
> >> => Not sure though if an MSashContainer is a good idea because then
> >> one can there once more nest a stack, do we want that?
> >> => this will most likely fix 8009
> >> * XPath for contributing and querying
> >>
> >>
> >> Things I'd consider important too but I don't plan to work on:
> >> * Improving the e4 bridge
> >> * enable e4 programming model for IDE dev (maybe needs e4 bridge)
> >> * refactor code to natively run on e4
> >> * common navigator?
> >> * preferences?
> >> * ui.dialogs?
> >> * e4xmi-Tooling
> >>
> >> Do we have a call today?
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
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