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RE: [cdt-dev] CDT4.0RC3 - why only available as updatesitefrom download page?

I don't know if it's of any help but it is possible to run the update
manager from the command line (at least for Eclipse 3.2.2).

Have a look at http://tinyurl.com/s32ak for details.

Cheers,
Richard



          
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Robert O'Brien
> Sent: Friday 15 June 2007 00:35
> To: CDT General developers list.
> Subject: RE: [cdt-dev] CDT4.0RC3 - why only available as
updatesitefrom
> download page?
> 
> Beth -- Thanks for responding. I missed the earlier posts to cdt-dev
> when I looked in the archives, sorry.
> 
> Is summary this change in releasing builds was made to conserve
> disk space and bandwidth at eclipse.org. (looking at Doug's post).
> 
> Unfortunately collapsing every component into an update site has
> made my workflow harder. Is there a possibility to change
> the release process? Or to get some help with my workflow?
> 
> I can see that an update site is useful, and that individual features
> can be installed via the update manager. Having a local cache of the
> update site is basically an optimization for using update manager.
> 
> In my case I need to download individual components of CDT (at least
> the CDT Runtime and SDK features) in an automated way without any
> human interaction or running a GUI such as update manager.
> 
> Unfortunately going from an update site to an eclipse hierarchy of
> features/plugins is a bit tricky. For example a feature in an update
> site is a jar file, while it must be a directory in an eclipse
> hierarchy.
> It's also inconvenient to parse the feature.xml to get the required
> plugins for that feature from a script (shell, make, or ant).
> 
> My concern is that such a script would be brittle and complex.
> It certainly was a pain to perform the extraction and conversion
> manually.
> 
> My preference is to add back some of the individual components to the
> build.
> Perhaps not every variant as before, at least more than all in one.
> For example three components; Runtime, SDK and Extras might be okay.
> Collapsing all platform architectures would be acceptable, if
necessary.
> 
> Thanks for reading this far and for any help.
> 
> Robert.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Beth Tibbitts
> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:04 PM
> > To: CDT General developers list.
> > Subject: Re: [cdt-dev] CDT4.0RC3 - why only available as
> > update sitefrom download page?
> >
> > Doug appended here on that change a while back.
> > Discussion is here on this thread:
> > http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cdt-dev/msg09964.html
> > Summary is here:
> > http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com/2007/06/new-way-to-get-your-cdt.html
> > I think he has a script that can extract what you need.
> >
> > ...Beth
> >
> > Beth Tibbitts  (859) 243-4981  (TL 545-4981) High
> > Productivity Tools / Parallel Tools  http://eclipse.org/ptp
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >              "Robert O'Brien"
> >
> >              <Robert.OBrien@ac
> >
> >              cess-company.com>
> >           To
> >              Sent by:                  <cdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >              cdt-dev-bounces@e
> >           cc
> >              clipse.org
> >
> >
> >      Subject
> >                                        [cdt-dev] CDT4.0RC3 -
> > why only
> >              06/14/2007 05:48          available as update
> > site from
> >              PM                        download page?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >              Please respond to
> >
> >                "CDT General
> >
> >              developers list."
> >
> >              <cdt-dev@eclipse.
> >
> >                    org>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For the recent RC3 build of CDT4.0 available from the
> > download page at
> >
<http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/europa/dist/4.0.0RC3/>
> > the build is only available as an update site with all CDT
components.
> >
> > >From the main CDT page at <www.eclipse.org/cdt>:
> >
> >              "CDT 4.0 RC3 is the second last release
> > candidate for CDT 4.0.
> > The final release candidate will be on June 22. Starting with
> > this build, we will now only produce an update site with all
> > features that are releasing with CDT 4."
> >
> > Why will the post RC2 builds only be available as an update
> > site with everything?
> > Is it possible to continue to make individual component
> > builds available for download as with RC2 and earlier?
> >
> > I want to get just the CDT Runtime (for linux/x86 in
> > particular) and package it for use in our company.
> > Previously this was easy since there was a single download to use.
> >
> > With the merged update site form, I need to manually extract
> > just the runtime bits which means I need to know exactly
> > which feature and plugins to extract. Seems fragile if
> > anything changes (e.g a new plugin is added or a name is changed).
> >
> > Additionally the feature is packaged as a jar for use as an
> > update site, which won't work for a direct install into the
> > features directory.
> > So the feature jar needs to be extracted and properly renamed.
> >
> > My concern is that this is additional work for me (either manual or
> > scripted) which makes me decide what contents define the CDT
> > runtime feature instead of having that feature define its content.
> >
> > Any possibility of getting individual downloads again?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Robert.
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