Re: [birt-dev] [Non-DoD Source] Re: Question regarding BIRT and Evaluati

[Graham Cottle <graham.cottle@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Michelle,

An ex-NASA employee confirmed to me that several US government agencies
(incl. DOD) do indeed currently use BIRT as part of their Maximo
application suite (since BIRT is shipped as part of Maximo). 

There was an extensive approval process for Maximo, so I'm guessing
that includes the BIRT eclipse project too, but I don't know if there
would be any restrictions on downloading/using BIRT outside of the
Maximo product.

I'll email you directly with contact details of someone knowledgeable
about this at Kennedy you can speak to, and list a few US agencies
which use BIRT (for confidentiality reasons, of course, its
inappropriate to post this here).

Kind Regards,
Graham


On Mon, 2023-10-09 at 10:20 +0200, Wim Jongman via birt-dev wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know about any such investigations when it comes to BIRT.
> However, I do know that other government bodies like NASA use Eclipse
> technology. [1]
> 
> Maybe that is a good starting point?
> 
> Cheers, Wim
> 
> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/community/casestudies/NASAfinal.pdf
> 
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 14:36, GRIFFIN, MICHELLE B CTR USSF SPOC 21
> CS/SCBMT via birt-dev <birt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Mike,
> >  
> >  Thank you very much for getting back to me on this as I very much
> > appreciate it. I’m trying to look into this and trying to get
> > information from the organizations whose networks we utilize here
> > to see what information they are able to provide me on this as
> > well. Thanks again for your help!
> >  
> > V/r,
> >  
> > Michelle Griffin | Jacobs | NISSC II | Circuit Actions Technician
> > O: 719.474.3055 | Alt: 719.474.3188
> > michelle.griffin.5.ctr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx | michelle.griffin@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 1 NORAD RD, Ste 3301, Cheyenne Mountain SFS, Colorado Springs, CO
> > 80914
> >  
> > From: birt-dev <birt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Mike
> > Milinkovich via birt-dev
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 9:28 AM
> > To: birt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [birt-dev] Question regarding BIRT
> > and Evaluation for Use
> >  
> > Michelle,
> > I can answer from the perspective of the Eclipse Foundation. (I am
> > the Executive Director.)
> > To the best of my knowledge, the Eclipse Foundation has never been
> > directly involved in having any projects evaluated for approval for
> > use on any government agency network. That doesn't mean that it's
> > never been done. It just means that the foundation has not been
> > involved. Since all of our projects are published as open source,
> > and I am aware that at least some of our projects are being used in
> > .mil settings, I do believe that some of these evaluations have
> > been done by third parties. But unfortunately, I am not sure where
> > we could point you for help on this specific request. 
> > If Wim or others know of such an evaluation being done, I am sure
> > they'll chime in. 
> > AFAIK, the Eclipse Foundation project that has the strongest .mil
> > community is OSEE. Someone on the osee-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx list might
> > be able to help you.
> > Hope that helps. 
> > On 2023-09-27 10:24 a.m., Loetz, Christophe via birt-dev wrote:
> > > Hi Wim,
> > >  
> > > I think the answer to the question asked is best left with you?
> > >  
> > > Best
> > > Christophe
> > >  
> > > Von: birt-dev [mailto:birt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag
> > > von GRIFFIN, MICHELLE B CTR USSF SPOC 21 CS/SCBMT via birt-dev
> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. September 2023 15:48
> > > An: birt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Cc: GRIFFIN, MICHELLE B CTR USSF SPOC 21 CS/SCBMT
> > > Betreff: [birt-dev] Question regarding BIRT and Evaluation for
> > > Use
> > >  
> > > Hello,
> > >  
> > > I am a government contractor working at Cheyenne Mountain Space
> > > Force Station and the reason I am contacting you today is to try
> > > and find out if BIRT has been evaluated for approval for use on
> > > any government agency network? I know that may sound like a weird
> > > question to ask, but please hear me out. I am developing a
> > > customized Remedy solution for use in my department and I require
> > > the ability to generate comprehensive reports but I find that the
> > > Report Designer that is included with the BMC Remedy ITSM product
> > > is rather limiting as far as formatting and presentation
> > > capabilities. I read through their documentation and they
> > > happened to mention building customized reports using BIRT and
> > > after doing some research, I found that BIRT may be the tool that
> > > I need to generate the reports that I want to create. Since I
> > > work for a government agency, I can’t just download the tool and
> > > use it without it having been already evaluated and approved for
> > > use on the network. I have not been able to find any
> > > documentation stating that it had been evaluated for approval for
> > > use on my network. DOD does have reciprocity agreements with
> > > other government agencies though and I was wanting to know if you
> > > were aware of any government agency that may have evaluated this
> > > product for use on their network or are actively using it. If I
> > > am able to obtain a Certificate to Field for use, then I may be
> > > able to use this tool in my network which would be a great help
> > > for my project. 
> > >  
> > > Thank you very much for your time!
> > >  
> > > Regards,
> > >  
> > >  
> > > Michelle Griffin | Jacobs | NISSC II | Circuit Actions Technician
> > > O: 719.474.3055 | Alt: 719.474.3188
> > > michelle.griffin.5.ctr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
> > > michelle.griffin@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > 1 NORAD RD, Ste 3301, Cheyenne Mountain SFS, Colorado Springs, CO
> > > 80914
> > >  
> > > 
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