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Re: [actf-dev] Validation component

Yeliz:
My responses below on behalf of the validation team.

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Hi there,

- It seems like it will be difficult to extend Webelo to write new
validation rules. You have to work with XML and also encode
validation rules in a scripting language, which we think will be
difficult to encode some rules in a scripting language.
MAS: I don't see why it would be anymore difficult to write rules in
JavaScript than in, say, Java. Some would argue that its easier since
scripting is often a quicker process than writing full-blown code to be
compiled. At any rate, it is only more sophisticated rules that need
involve scripting; for simpler tests, XML is all that is necessary. Perhaps
you can provide me some examples of the sorts of rules that you'd like to
encode.

At first, we
though you could just extend the validation rules by writing XML
pages but one has to encode validation rules in a scripting language.
MAS: Again, this is not true. I would need some example sof rules you think
you'd like to encode and could provide further guidance.


- Webelo only validates pages with Mozilla DOM which we think it is
potentially a limitation because most of the assistive technologies
(such as Jaws) work with Internet Explorer. Therefore it is crucial
to validate pages for Internet Explorer.
MAS: We agree but our team's resources dictated that we work with Mozilla
because that browser widget was already embedded in Eclipse and provided
access to the DOM; the IE widget in Eclipse did not. Fukuda-San's team has
an API for accessing the IE  DOM but we have not yet explored that code.


These are the two main reasons why we have decided to use aDesigner.
Can you please confirm that aDesigner validation component will
continue to be part of Actf?
MAS: I'm sure it will be but Fukuda-San will need to confirm. Also, keep in
mind that, so far as I know, ADesigner's rules cannot be extended without
writing your own Java code and contributing to the ADesigner codebase. If
you're going to write code, you could just as easily implement the
requisite API that I discussed in my presentation. Of course, the choice is
yours.

Regards,
Yeliz
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