RE: [platform-swt-dev] Proposal SWT to Eclipse Team

["R.J. Lorimer" <rjlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Frans,

I will do my best to explain given my understanding of what you are
requesting.

SWT is already decoupled from Eclipse. Although it is currently released
with Eclipse releases, that is primarily because the large majority of
bugs/enhancements that occur in SWT are found through its extensive use
INSIDE of Eclipse.

See the 3.1M1 build of SWT (for Windows) here:
http://download2.eclipse.org/downloads/drops/S-3.1M1-200408122000/download.p
hp?dropFile=swt-3.1M1-win32.zip

There are many examples of applications built using SWT today with no
affiliation to Eclipse.

For instance:

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
http://sqladmin.sourceforge.net/
http://sancho-gui.sourceforge.net/
http://rssowl.sourceforge.net/
 
... And many others.

In regards to RCP, I think you may be missing the original goals of RCP. RCP
is specifically intended to help developers build applications using SWT,
Jface and the Eclipse runtime (plug-ins, resources, etc) without any direct
affiliation to Eclipse whatsoever. If you don't need that runtime, you can
simply grab the pieces of Eclipse you need directly for your application.

I don't know if this helps, I am hoping I understood and was able to provide
the insight you were looking for - 


Regards,

R.J.
-----Original Message-----
From: platform-swt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:platform-swt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frans Thamura
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 8:32 PM
To: platform-swt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [platform-swt-dev] Proposal SWT to Eclipse Team

Hi Eclipse Team,

I study several area of SWT/JFace.

I found there is a lot of advantage.

With the wave of RCP everywhere.

I think this is better if SWT/JFace is decoupled from Eclipse.

let the project run by their self, and make us the developer that use
SWT/JFace or RCP developer can have a freedom of this API.

I think make JFace and SWT directly compete with AWT/Swing is another
advantage rather inside Eclipse.

Eclipse will focus to compete with Netbeans.

I see there will be a lot of new feature in SWT/JFace.

I think this is not good to make every Eclipse upgrade, the SWT is upgrade
too.

I think this is good for developer like us.

our experience with 2.x and 3.x, I think decoupling is a good point.

this is just 2 cent idea from me.

Frans Thamura


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