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Re: [platform-dev] Bug autoclose / triage / fixing

>  But what impression do we want to give the users?

You either fix your bus your self or they get never fixed unless another one is bored about it and fix it :-)

Actually if we like to get better user- experience we should focus on bugs not new features... but bugs get only attention if they really break many user in a worse way.

I already noted that in a recent discussion about the move to GH, where it was mentioned we can't move because there are so many gerrits open because we need to work on new feature ...

For Tycho I regular check the list of bugs, ask users for more details or if the problem is unimportant in the meanwhile and even picking some for each release to fix them. I think there should be a rule not starting with new features if you have not had fixed one bug before ;-)


Am 10.02.22 um 11:42 schrieb Ed Merks:
I do keep lists:

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&classification=Modeling&component=releng&component=doc&component=website&component=Core&component=Doc&component=Edit&component=Mapping&component=Tools&component=Xcore&component=XML%2FXMI&list_id=21197880&order=resolution%2Cbug_id&product=EMF&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&resolution=FIXED

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=FIXED&classification=Modeling&component=Core&list_id=21197881&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=MDT.XSD&query_format=advanced

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?Bugzilla_restrictlogin=on&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=FIXED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&classification=Tools&component=Docs&component=Dynamic%20Working%20Sets&component=P2%20Management&component=Preferences%20Management&component=Project%20Configuration&component=Release%20Engineering&component=Setup&component=Targlets&component=Tools&component=Utilities&component=Version%20Management&list_id=21197882&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=Oomph&query_format=advanced

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&classification=Eclipse%20Project&component=p2&list_id=21192801&order=bug_id%20DESC&product=Equinox&query_format=advanced

    https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&classification=Technology&component=General&list_id=21197883&product=Justj&query_format=advanced

And while you might not keep lists, auto closing issues reminds not just you that attention is needed but it reminds the users that you don't keep a list.  And it might will tell the users that you don't really care about backlogs of issues enough to track them.    Whatever isn't dealt with in a few days or weeks will linger for the robot's auto-close lifetime by which point the reporter hopefully doesn't care anymore either. Of course the problem is not that we nor you don't care, we're all just super busy.  But what impression do we want to give the users? That we're so busy we need a robot to help us?


On 10.02.2022 11:28, Mickael Istria wrote:
FWIW, I personally like the "reminder" about old bugs I once cared about and then have forgotten about, and that often allows me to take a decision of whether I'm fine seeing them closed (sometimes marking them as resolved or not important any more), or whether I need to reopen them with more context. I almost never do active triaging of those bugs by looking at a bug list. The only triaging I do happens by reacting to these notifications. Remove the notifications, and I'll personally be doing less triaging as a result (for the very little it counts in practice).

If I had to vote, I'd vote -0 for the removal of autoclose, which means I don't mind overall about the decision, but if it were only me I would keep the autoclose.

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