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Re: [platform-debug-dev] extending VariablesView? (Memory View)

Samantha,
> To summarize your requirements:
> * You need to be able to have more than one Memory View opened at the same
> time. - already possible
OK - I will investigate this

> * You need to be able to provide a different set of renderings for your
> memory block depending on which view is displaying that memory block. -
> currently not possible
In my code, I think I can work around this.

> * You need to be able to disallow your user from removing a rendering that
> is currently displayed in the Memory View.  - currently not possible
I can live with this. I am providing a way for the user to get back the "default" situation if they accidentally delete. In fact, this might be a better way to do it.

Thanks,
---
Derek

Samantha Chan wrote:
Hi Derek -

The renderings are designed to be portable, meaning that the renderings can
be displayed in any view that implements IMemoryRenderingSite and
IMemoryRenderingContainer. So, in theory, to have another view display only
one type of rendering is possible provided that this custom view implements
the aforementioned interfaces.

Another requirement that you have is that your custom rendering should only
be displayed in the custom view and not in the Memory View,   So, you need
to be able to provide a different set of renderings depending on which view
is displaying your memory block.  Is this correct?  This is also not
possible in the current infrastructure.  You may want to submit an
enhancement request for this.  To get around this problem, your custom view
needs to know which rendering to create.

To summarize your requirements:
* You need to be able to have more than one Memory View opened at the same
time. - already possible
* You need to be able to provide a different set of renderings for your
memory block depending on which view is displaying that memory block. -
currently not possible
* You need to be able to disallow your user from removing a rendering that
is currently displayed in the Memory View.  - currently not possible

Are these the only two things that force you to write your own view?  Or
are you doing other customization?

Thanks...
Samantha





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Samantha,

Thanks for the response, and sorry for my delay - busy implementing!

What I want is an *additional* memoryview that just displays my custom
renderings. I want to allow the user to continue to use the existing
memoryview,
as they wish.

So, I actually want to do both things that you suggested! Is this possible?

Thanks,

---
Derek

Samantha Chan wrote:
Hi Derek -

If you need to write a new view to host renderings, your view need to
implement the IMemoryRenderingSite.  A memory rendering site consists of
one or more memory rendering containers.  Therefore, your view also needs
to implement the IMemoryRenderingContainer interface.  These interfaces
will allow you to add renderings to your view programmatically.

The Memory View implementation is internal and is not an API.  Therefore,
the code is subject to change from release to release.  It is not
recommended that you subclass your new view from the Memory View.

I understand that you do want your custom renderings to be displayed in
the
Memory View.  Is it because you do not want your users to use the
existing
renderings provided by the platform  (i.e. the table renderings)?  What
you
want is a Memory View that displays your custom renderings only and
nothing
else?

Thanks...
Samantha





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Samantha,

Having look through the code, I see that it provides an additional
rendering (HexTree) into the existing memory monitor.

What I would like to do, is create a new (additional) view, based on the
Memory View, but with some new functionality (renderings). I do not want
to add a new rendering to the existing memory view. Is this possible
with the new infrastructure?

Thanks,
---
Derek

Samantha Chan wrote:
Hi  Derek,

You can find the exercises from the same bugzilla entry.  Look for
"Source
for exercises related to "memory view" ".

Here's a quick link to the source for the Memory View exercise.
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/attachment.cgi?id=188

Thanks...
Samantha




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Darin,

The tutorial is very interesting. I might be able to do what I want with
the memory renderings, however, the source for the
example.debug.memoryview exercise is missing. I've done a quick google
and can't find it anywhere. Do you have a pointer to it?

Thanks,

---
Derek

Darin Wright wrote:
 > Darin,
 >
 > Thanks for your quick reply.
 >
 > Am am writing the plugin for an embedded system. This system has
some
 > hardware registers (for peripherals) in the processors memory map.
These
 > can be viewed using a Memory view, but this is very clunky.
 >
 > Typically, each peripheral will have a small number of memory-mapped
 > registers (<16), they may not be contiguous in the memory map, they
may
 > be 8-, 16- or 32-bits wide and very often they consist of separate
 > bit-fields. Therefore, each peripheral, in effect, needs it own
custom view.
 >
 > None of the current views even comes close...

In 3.2, we added experimental support for 'flexible content'.
Basically,
a model can present and drive the update of any hierarchy of elements
in
a debug view. However, the presentation (controls - tree/table) remains
as is. We hope to make the 3.2 support public API in 3.3. There was a
tutorial covering this material at EclipseCon 2006 - you can review the
presentation here:
http://eclipsezilla.eclipsecon.org/php/attachment.php?bugid=58.

Hopefully you are familiar with the DSDP project which is aimed at
embedded developers - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/

Darin



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