In addition, abuse will not completely disappear by forcing
people to vote as evident in the "Eclipse Plugins" site. People
can register any number of anonymous email accounts (hotmail, yahoo,
gmail,....) with the right level of motivation. As such, we will need to
improve how we handle abuse "registered or anonymous" .
>>>> I agree that people will
use gmail but it does make it another hurdle and makes it more difficult for
proxies.
So to summarize the discussion; we have two distinct
issues that we need to address:
1. Discourage the "Spam" content from the
forums and similar rich content locations. +1 for doing what it
takes to do so.
>>>>OK so I think we have
agreement from all to have require registration for forum postings
2. Curtailing malicious and stacking of
votes/popularity measures. This is a much bigger issue than simply
limiting access to registered users.
OK I agree. Lets hold tight on this and
address the bigger issue. I think Eric has the action item to address the
rankings. Maybe we can discuss more during our call next week.
Thanks
Ian
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July
12, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: RE: Restricting
Access to Anonymous Users
Maher,
I took a look at the hotscripts site.
I was wondering if you could be more specific about what you like about
their management of anonymous votes? It seems like their ratings
are based on a very small sample size, some of the ‘top’ rated
plug-ins had less than 10 votes.
I agree that we should try to prohibit
proxies. Howver, I do believe it is becoming accepted practice to
require a user to register before voting/commenting. I am thinking of
sites like digg.com, dzone.com.
Ian
From:
phoenix-epic-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:phoenix-epic-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Maher Masri
Sent: July 11, 2006 10:27 PM
To: The EPIC component of Phoenix
Subject: [phoenix-epic-dev] RE:
Restricting Access to Anonymous Users
This issue is not new to EPIC or any other popular
site. Limiting forum access to registered users will come at the price of
convenience and will discourage many from participating in the ongoing
discussions. I'm Ok however with piloting the idea for forum
participation and see the impact.
As for generalizing the requirement for all content (rating
and comments), I would have to draw attention to the Hotscripts site.
They do a very good job of managing anonymous votes and limiting abuse. I
believe we can accomplish the same by extending the existing abuse rules to
account for proxy and malicious votes.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 11,
2006 2:07 PM
Subject: RE:
[phoenix-epic-dev] Restricting Access to Anonymous Users
+1 to making this change.
I’d request other Phoenix committers to please express their
opinion.
Good Morning all
I have been noticing that we are starting to get an increase
in the number of spam / porn / drug posts on our forums. I would like to
suggest that we remove all the posting abilities for anonymous users from the
site, This includes Ratings, Comments, and Forums postings. I think
going forward we need to validate that our users are legitimate and not trying
to game rankings as seen in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149319.
Another reminder that the EPIC wiki can be found here http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/EPIC
Nathan Gervais
nathan.gervais@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web Developer
Eclipse Foundation [http://www.eclipse.org]
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