In addition, abuse will not
completely disappear by forcing people to vote as evident in the "Eclipse
Plugins" site. People can register any number of anonymous email
accounts (hotmail, yahoo, gmail,....) with the right level of
motivation. As such, we will need to improve how we handle abuse
"registered or anonymous" .
>>>> I
agree that people will use gmail but it does make it another hurdle and makes
it more difficult for proxies.
So to summarize the
discussion; we have two distinct issues that we need to
address:
1. Discourage the "Spam"
content from the forums and similar rich content locations. +1 for
doing what it takes to do so.
>>>>OK so
I think we have agreement from all to have require registration for forum
postings
2. Curtailing malicious and
stacking of votes/popularity measures. This is a much bigger issue than
simply limiting access to registered users.
OK I agree. Lets hold
tight on this and address the bigger issue. I think Eric has the action
item to address the rankings. Maybe we can discuss more during our
call next week.
Thanks
Ian
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: RE:
Restricting Access to Anonymous Users
Maher,
I took a look at the hotscripts
site. I was wondering if you could be more specific about what
you like about their management of anonymous votes? It seems
like their ratings are based on a very small sample size, some of the top
rated plug-ins had less than 10 votes.
I agree that we should try to prohibit
proxies. Howver, I do believe it is becoming accepted practice
to require a user to register before voting/commenting. I am thinking
of sites like digg.com, dzone.com.
Ian
From:
phoenix-epic-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:phoenix-epic-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Maher Masri
Sent: July 11, 2006 10:27
PM
To: The EPIC component
of Phoenix
Subject:
[phoenix-epic-dev] RE: Restricting Access to Anonymous
Users
This issue is not new to EPIC or
any other popular site. Limiting forum access to registered users will
come at the price of convenience and will discourage many from participating
in the ongoing discussions. I'm Ok however with piloting the idea for
forum participation and see the impact.
As for generalizing the
requirement for all content (rating and comments), I would have to draw
attention to the Hotscripts site. They do a very good job of managing
anonymous votes and limiting abuse. I believe we can accomplish the
same by extending the existing abuse rules to account for proxy and
malicious votes.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, July 11, 2006 2:07 PM
Subject:
RE: [phoenix-epic-dev] Restricting Access to Anonymous
Users
+1 to making this
change.
Id request other Phoenix committers to
please express their opinion.
Good Morning
all
I have been noticing that we
are starting to get an increase in the number of spam / porn / drug posts
on our forums. I would like to suggest that we remove all the
posting abilities for anonymous users from the site, This includes
Ratings, Comments, and Forums postings. I think going forward we
need to validate that our users are legitimate and not trying to game
rankings as seen in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=149319.
Another reminder that the EPIC
wiki can be found here http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/EPIC
Nathan
Gervais
nathan.gervais@xxxxxxxxxxx
Web
Developer
Eclipse Foundation
[http://www.eclipse.org]
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