| Re: [mylyn-reviews-dev] EclipseCon call for paper |
So +1 for Marcos idea. If this ok for all planned presenters, I would go on with the submission.
To prepare the presentation and to move on with the project, I propose to have a face2face meeting this December. Afaik, Steffen is in Germany. Maybe we could meet in Germany or Vienna?
Mario
Am 24.11.2010 21:40, schrieb Marco Masse:
I don't think there was any conclusion to this yet. Here is an attempt
to summarize so we can make a decision at tomorrow's Mylyn call. We only
have a few days left for submitting the abstract.
Most people +1ed Mario's proposal. At Ericsson we would like to keep the
abstract but make it a 40 minute talk since 20 min will be too short for
all presenters we have.
Steffen recommended that we split in two abstracts below, but
considering the rather immature status of Mylyn Reviews as a whole, I
think we can live with a not so perfect presentation flow if we can get
all key persons from SAP, Tasktop, Vienna University of Technology and
Ericsson on the same stage in order to better present the overall vision
and answer all questions. If we split in two talks, we run the risk of
having material overlap and having one talk rejected.
So, we would like to propose going ahead with Mario's proposal as a 40
minute talk, with presenters from Tasktop, SAP, Vienna University of
Technology and Ericsson. Let's discuss at tomorrow's call. Those who
can't make it at tomorrow's call should send their input on the mailing
list.
Marco
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Sorry for the bad connection [1]. The point I was trying to make is that
a talk about tools that exists, have source code, an update site and
documentation is more likely to get accepted than a proposal that is
less concrete [2]. That said, we have a bunch of good things coming and
it's mostly a matter of getting them in shape.
I would propose to update the website and contributor wiki page along
with the proposal to ensure there is something to look at. I also think
it would help to emphasize the concrete value that the community can get
out of the Mylyn Reviews project, e.g. start with what's there now and
then talk about the vision and progress more than the structure of the
project.
From my experience, it can be difficult to maintain a good flow with
more than two speakers, particularly if the talk is only twenty minutes
long so from my point of view it would make more sense to submit
separate proposals, e.g. one for the framework and TBR and a separate
one for R4E.
Just FYI, Benjamin Muskalla and I submitted a proposal for a talk about
EGit/Gerrit/Hudson:
https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2011/view_talk.php?id=2068
Steffen
[1] I was traveling on a train through a mountain range and apparently
the mountain goats succeeded in their protest against a cell phone tower.
[2]
http://intellectualcramps.blogspot.com/2010/11/eclipsecon-submission-ideas.html
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Marco Masse <marco.masse@xxxxxxxxxxxxmylyn-reviews-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mylyn-reviews-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:marco.masse@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
+1 but I would go for a 40 minute talk so we can elaborate on each
topic and have enough time to handle questions from the audience.
Steffen mentioned something about the ESE selection committee at the
call today, but the call dropped towards the end. We should take
that (Steffen can you summarize this on the mailing list please?)
into consideration for the EclipseCon talk as well...
Marco
-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Bernhart [mailto:mario.bernhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:mario.bernhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: Thursday 18 Nov 10 12:38
To: Mylyn Reviews Project
Cc: Marco Masse; Dominique Toupin; Alvaro Sanchez-Leon
Subject: Re: EclipseCon call for paper
Hi,
i suggest to plan for a joint presentation and to elaborate the ESE
2010 submission + add the Gerrit part.
We could make 20mins Standard Talk:
5min: Steffen and me about the overall structure and the framework
5min: 1 from Ericsson about R4E
5min: 1 from SAP about Gerrit
5min: Kilian about TBR and the SCM integration
I can not make it to the Mylyn call today. If I get a +1 on the
mailing list from all parties, I would submit an initial proposal
this week.
Mario
PS: If we get accepted, we could share the one 50% discount.
Am 15.11.2010 21:32, schrieb Marco Masse:
> Hi Mario,
> The deadline for early abstract submission at EclipseCon is this week
> (November 17th). The overall deadline is November 30th.
> We have a few options. One option is to take the abstract you and
> Dominique submitted at ESE as a base and add a bit more in the
area of
> Gerrit. We could have representatives from your organization,
Ericsson
> and SAP. We can also have an option where we have separated talks
(one
> for each review tool).
> Here is the link to the ESE abstract:
>
_https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/ese2010/view_talk.php?id=1728_
> Anyways, let us know what you think. We should eventually coordinate
> using the mylyn-reviews-dev mailing list so everybody is in the
loop...
> BR,
> Marco
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