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Re: [mylyn-reviews-dev] EclipseCon call for paper
I don't think there was any conclusion to this yet. Here is an attempt to summarize so we can make a decision at tomorrow's Mylyn call. We only have a few days left for submitting the abstract.
 
Most people +1ed Mario's proposal. At Ericsson we would like to keep the abstract but make it a 40 minute talk since 20 min will be too short for all presenters we have.
 
Steffen recommended that we split in two abstracts below, but considering the rather immature status of Mylyn Reviews as a whole, I think we can live with a not so perfect presentation flow if we can get all key persons from SAP, Tasktop, Vienna University of Technology and Ericsson on the same stage in order to better present the overall vision and answer all questions. If we split in two talks, we run the risk of having material overlap and having one talk rejected.
 
So, we would like to propose going ahead with Mario's proposal as a 40 minute talk, with presenters from Tasktop, SAP, Vienna University of Technology and Ericsson. Let's discuss at tomorrow's call. Those who can't make it at tomorrow's call should send their input on the mailing list.

Marco 

From: mylyn-reviews-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mylyn-reviews-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steffen Pingel
Sent: Thursday 18 Nov 10 16:41
To: Mylyn Reviews Project
Subject: Re: [mylyn-reviews-dev] EclipseCon call for paper

Sorry for the bad connection [1]. The point I was trying to make is that a talk about tools that exists, have source code, an update site and documentation is more likely to get accepted than a proposal that is less concrete [2]. That said, we have a bunch of good things coming and it's mostly a matter of getting them in shape.

I would propose to update the website and contributor wiki page along with the proposal to ensure there is something to look at. I also think it would help to emphasize the concrete value that the community can get out of the Mylyn Reviews project, e.g. start with what's there now and then talk about the vision and progress more than the structure of the project.

From my experience, it can be difficult to maintain a good flow with more than two speakers, particularly if the talk is only twenty minutes long so from my point of view it would make more sense to submit separate proposals, e.g. one for the framework and TBR and a separate one for R4E.

Just FYI, Benjamin Muskalla and I submitted a proposal for a talk about EGit/Gerrit/Hudson: https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/2011/view_talk.php?id=2068

Steffen


[1] I was traveling on a train through a mountain range and apparently the mountain goats succeeded in their protest against a cell phone tower.
[2] http://intellectualcramps.blogspot.com/2010/11/eclipsecon-submission-ideas.html

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Marco Masse <marco.masse@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1 but I would go for a 40 minute talk so we can elaborate on each topic and have enough time to handle questions from the audience.

Steffen mentioned something about the ESE selection committee at the call today, but the call dropped towards the end. We should take that (Steffen can you summarize this on the mailing list please?) into consideration for the EclipseCon talk as well...

Marco

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario Bernhart [mailto:mario.bernhart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday 18 Nov 10 12:38
To: Mylyn Reviews Project
Cc: Marco Masse; Dominique Toupin; Alvaro Sanchez-Leon
Subject: Re: EclipseCon call for paper

Hi,

i suggest to plan for a joint presentation and to elaborate the ESE 2010 submission + add the Gerrit part.

We could make 20mins Standard Talk:

5min: Steffen and me about the overall structure and the framework
5min: 1 from Ericsson about R4E
5min: 1 from SAP about Gerrit
5min: Kilian about TBR and the SCM integration

I can not make it to the Mylyn call today. If I get a +1 on the mailing list from all parties, I would submit an initial proposal this week.

Mario

PS: If we get accepted, we could share the one 50% discount.

Am 15.11.2010 21:32, schrieb Marco Masse:
> Hi Mario,
> The deadline for early abstract submission at EclipseCon is this week
> (November 17th). The overall deadline is November 30th.
> We have a few options. One option is to take the abstract you and
> Dominique submitted at ESE as a base and add a bit more in the area of
> Gerrit. We could have representatives from your organization, Ericsson
> and SAP. We can also have an option where we have separated talks (one
> for each review tool).
> Here is the link to the ESE abstract:
> _https://www.eclipsecon.org/submissions/ese2010/view_talk.php?id=1728_
> Anyways, let us know what you think. We should eventually coordinate
> using the mylyn-reviews-dev mailing list so everybody is in the loop...
> BR,
> Marco
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