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Re: [mddi-dev] Re: [modeling-pmc] MDDi archival 
Rich, et al --
Just a note to say that July review dates are still being determined, and the MDDi review might be on July 23 rather than July 30. I hope that is OK. Please let me know if it's not. Thanks. 

Anne Jacko
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On Jul 2, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Richard Gronback wrote:


Hi Tom,
The Termination Review is tentatively scheduled for Wednesday, July 30th. 
Look for it listed in the next review call announcement.
As for MDDi participation, you're welcome (encouraged) to attend and present 
your case.

Best Regards,
Rich
On 7/2/08 12:42 PM, "Tom Ritter" <tom.ritter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 


Dear Richard,

Richard Gronback wrote:
As discussed on the last Modeling PMC call, we are asking for a Termination Review and archival of the MDDi project. Unfortunately, a number of issues have existed with MDDi related to scope and contribution level for quite some time. An attempt to reboot the project following the departure of 
Sebastien Demathieu has seemingly failed.
I'm sorry to hear that this is your impression, although I do not share 
this view.
On the activity side, it's clear from newsgroup and mailing list history 
that the project is either not active, or not open and transparent:

http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mddi-dev/maillist.html
http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.modeling.mddi
Note that the last newsgroup posting on 04/11 with an offer to contribute to 
the project has gone unanswered.
In fact some of the mddi members were contacted directly in parallel and 
therefore this request has been answered via this channel.



Similarly, the dash shows CVS activity is quite low:
http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/summary.cgi?company=y&month=x&p
roject=modeling.mddi


I think there are other projects with less activity in CVS.
Given the increased sensitivity to IP cleanliness concerns, a quick scan of MDDi's CVS repository (still in Technology, not yet moved to Modeling's 
repo), a number of 3rd party libraries are present and provided in


BTW: when I took over the lead the root of MDDi's CVS was something I
was really wondering about, I did not know that this was something I had 
to fix.


downloads, though they are not all covered by IPZilla Contribution
Questionnaires, not to mention they should be consumed from Orbit, where 
available:

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.adapter/lib/axis/? root=Technology_Project 

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.notification/lib/? root=Technology_Project 

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.registry/lib/? root=Technology_Project 

IPZilla query on all MDDi CQs:
https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc
_type = allwordssubstr &short_desc=&product=modeling&component=modeling.mddi&lo ng_desc_type =substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_ loc = &keywords_type =allwords&keywords=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substri ng &email1 =&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substr ing &email2 =&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalu e=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last +time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0 
=noop&value0-0-0=


I was not aware of this problem and it would have been nice to get a
pointer to that beforehand to deal with this problem.
No regular builds are provided, with the last one being from 13 Nov 2007, and the one prior to that dated 01 August 2006. It's recommended that all 
Modeling projects provide releng using the common builder
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_Project_Releng), though minimally it is expected that projects provide regular milestones and keep current with 
underlying dependencies.
Ok, right this is something which is not in best shape. But it could be 
improved.
The MDDi website indicates it's an incubating project, but it does not 
conform to the list of requirements:
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/parallel-ip-process.php#Conformi
ng



Unfortunately, I did not manage to bring the incubation logo on the
website, since I'm not experienced in PHP programming. But we can easily change the Bundle-names. However, MDDi is still in incubation, so it is 
a non-conforming incubation project and clearly marked as such, as
several other Eclipse projects are.
Given the information above, it seems we should move forward with archival 
of the project
(http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#6_2_6_A
rchived). Of course, the 3rd party libraries should be deleted before the 
project is archived.
Again I'm very sorry to hear this and I wonder if there is a chance to 
do anything about it.
The Modeling PMC hereby requests the scheduling of a Termination Review for 
the MDDi project.
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#6_3_6_Te
rmination_Review
Who is requested to schedule a termination review and what do you expect 
from MDDi side for this review?

Thanks,
  Tom

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