Re: [mddi-dev] Re: [modeling-pmc] MDDi archival

[Richard Gronback <richard.gronback@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Tom,

The Termination Review is tentatively scheduled for Wednesday, July 30th.
Look for it listed in the next review call announcement.

As for MDDi participation, you're welcome (encouraged) to attend and present
your case.

Best Regards,
Rich


On 7/2/08 12:42 PM, "Tom Ritter" <tom.ritter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Richard,
> 
> Richard Gronback wrote:
>> As discussed on the last Modeling PMC call, we are asking for a Termination
>> Review and archival of the MDDi project.  Unfortunately, a number of issues
>> have existed with MDDi related to scope and contribution level for quite
>> some time.  An attempt to reboot the project following the departure of
>> Sebastien Demathieu has seemingly failed.
> 
> I'm sorry to hear that this is your impression, although I do not share
> this view.
> 
>> 
>> On the activity side, it's clear from newsgroup and mailing list history
>> that the project is either not active, or not open and transparent:
>> 
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mddi-dev/maillist.html
>> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.modeling.mddi
>> 
>> Note that the last newsgroup posting on 04/11 with an offer to contribute to
>> the project has gone unanswered.
> 
> In fact some of the mddi members were contacted directly in parallel and
> therefore this request has been answered via this channel.
> 
>> 
>> Similarly, the dash shows CVS activity is quite low:
>> http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/summary.cgi?company=y&month=x&p
>> roject=modeling.mddi
> 
> I think there are other projects with less activity in CVS.
> 
>> 
>> Given the increased sensitivity to IP cleanliness concerns, a quick scan of
>> MDDi's CVS repository (still in Technology, not yet moved to Modeling's
>> repo), a number of 3rd party libraries are present and provided in
> 
> BTW: when I took over the lead the root of MDDi's CVS was something I
> was really wondering about, I did not know that this was something I had
> to fix.
> 
>> downloads, though they are not all covered by IPZilla Contribution
>> Questionnaires, not to mention they should be consumed from Orbit, where
>> available:
>> 
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
>> odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.adapter/lib/axis/?root=Technology_Project
>> 
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
>> odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.notification/lib/?root=Technology_Project
>> 
>> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
>> odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.registry/lib/?root=Technology_Project
>> 
>> IPZilla query on all MDDi CQs:
>> https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc
>> _type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=modeling&component=modeling.mddi&lo
>> ng_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_
>> loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substri
>> ng&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substr
>> ing&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalu
>> e=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0
>> =noop&value0-0-0=
> 
> I was not aware of this problem and it would have been nice to get a
> pointer to that beforehand to deal with this problem.
> 
>> 
>> No regular builds are provided, with the last one being from 13 Nov 2007,
>> and the one prior to that dated 01 August 2006.  It's recommended that all
>> Modeling projects provide releng using the common builder
>> (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_Project_Releng), though minimally it is
>> expected that projects provide regular milestones and keep current with
>> underlying dependencies.
>> 
> 
> Ok, right this is something which is not in best shape. But it could be
> improved.
> 
>> The MDDi website indicates it's an incubating project, but it does not
>> conform to the list of requirements:
>> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/parallel-ip-process.php#Conformi
>> ng
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately, I did not manage to bring the incubation logo on the
> website, since I'm not experienced in PHP programming. But we can easily
> change the Bundle-names. However, MDDi is still in incubation, so it is
> a non-conforming incubation project and clearly marked as such, as
> several other Eclipse projects are.
> 
> 
>> Given the information above, it seems we should move forward with archival
>> of the project 
>> (http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#6_2_6_A
>> rchived).  Of course, the 3rd party libraries should be deleted before the
>> project is archived.
> 
> Again I'm very sorry to hear this and I wonder if there is a chance to
> do anything about it.
> 
>> 
>> The Modeling PMC hereby requests the scheduling of a Termination Review for
>> the MDDi project.
>> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#6_3_6_Te
>> rmination_Review
>> 
> 
> Who is requested to schedule a termination review and what do you expect
> from MDDi side for this review?
> 
> Thanks,
>    Tom
>