Re: [modeling-pmc] MDDi archival

[Tom Ritter <tom.ritter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Richard,

Richard Gronback wrote:
> As discussed on the last Modeling PMC call, we are asking for a Termination
> Review and archival of the MDDi project.  Unfortunately, a number of issues
> have existed with MDDi related to scope and contribution level for quite
> some time.  An attempt to reboot the project following the departure of
> Sebastien Demathieu has seemingly failed.

I'm sorry to hear that this is your impression, although I do not share 
this view.

> On the activity side, it's clear from newsgroup and mailing list history
> that the project is either not active, or not open and transparent:
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/mddi-dev/maillist.html
> http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/thread.php?group=eclipse.modeling.mddi
>
> Note that the last newsgroup posting on 04/11 with an offer to contribute to
> the project has gone unanswered.

In fact some of the mddi members were contacted directly in parallel and 
therefore this request has been answered via this channel.

> Similarly, the dash shows CVS activity is quite low:
> http://dash.eclipse.org/dash/commits/web-app/summary.cgi?company=y&month=x&p
> roject=modeling.mddi

I think there are other projects with less activity in CVS.

> Given the increased sensitivity to IP cleanliness concerns, a quick scan of
> MDDi's CVS repository (still in Technology, not yet moved to Modeling's
> repo), a number of 3rd party libraries are present and provided in

BTW: when I took over the lead the root of MDDi's CVS was something I 
was really wondering about, I did not know that this was something I had 
to fix.

> downloads, though they are not all covered by IPZilla Contribution
> Questionnaires, not to mention they should be consumed from Orbit, where
> available:
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
> odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.adapter/lib/axis/?root=Technology_Project
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
> odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.notification/lib/?root=Technology_Project
>
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.mddi/org.eclipse.mddi.m
> odelbus/org.eclipse.mddi.modelbus.registry/lib/?root=Technology_Project
>
> IPZilla query on all MDDi CQs:
> https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc
> _type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=modeling&component=modeling.mddi&lo
> ng_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_
> loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substri
> ng&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substr
> ing&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalu
> e=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0
> =noop&value0-0-0=

I was not aware of this problem and it would have been nice to get a 
pointer to that beforehand to deal with this problem.

> No regular builds are provided, with the last one being from 13 Nov 2007,
> and the one prior to that dated 01 August 2006.  It's recommended that all
> Modeling projects provide releng using the common builder
> (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Modeling_Project_Releng), though minimally it is
> expected that projects provide regular milestones and keep current with
> underlying dependencies.

Ok, right this is something which is not in best shape. But it could be 
improved.

> The MDDi website indicates it's an incubating project, but it does not
> conform to the list of requirements:
> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/parallel-ip-process.php#Conformi
> ng

Unfortunately, I did not manage to bring the incubation logo on the 
website, since I'm not experienced in PHP programming. But we can easily 
change the Bundle-names. However, MDDi is still in incubation, so it is 
a non-conforming incubation project and clearly marked as such, as 
several other Eclipse projects are.


> Given the information above, it seems we should move forward with archival
> of the project 
> (http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#6_2_6_A
> rchived).  Of course, the 3rd party libraries should be deleted before the
> project is archived.

Again I'm very sorry to hear this and I wonder if there is a chance to 
do anything about it.

> The Modeling PMC hereby requests the scheduling of a Termination Review for
> the MDDi project.  
> http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process.php#6_3_6_Te
> rmination_Review

Who is requested to schedule a termination review and what do you expect 
from MDDi side for this review?

Thanks,
  Tom


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