Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: [jwt-dev] Why use JWT

[Marc Dutoo <marc.dutoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I know, work in progress... I'll try to let them target "similar" pages 
until they are written

Regards,
Marc

Christian Saad a écrit :
> Yeah, it rocks! :)
>
> just a small problem I encountered: The two links in the welcome text next
> to the WE image don't seem to work yet.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>   
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Im Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. Juni 2009 11:40
> > An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [jwt-dev] Why use JWT
> >
> > Hi Florian
> >
> > Actually, I'm trying many different things, so I can't commit all
> > variations, but OK, I'll do it !
> >
> > Regards,
> > Marc
> >
> > Florian Lautenbacher a écrit :
> >     
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I like the changes that you've made, Marc, as well as the improvement
> > >       
> > ideas
> >     
> > > from Chris. Why don't you simply upload the newest webpages to the
> > >       
> > CVS, so
> >     
> > > we can see your changes "live"? Even if there are still some errors,
> > >       
> > the web
> >     
> > > site does not take that long (mostly only a few seconds, only
> > >       
> > sometimes up
> >     
> > > to thirty minutes) to actualize.
> > >
> > > Then we could have a much better collaborative process for improving
> > >       
> > our
> >     
> > > website.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Florian
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >       
> > Im
> >     
> > > Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
> > > Gesendet: 02 June 2009 11:17
> > > An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> > > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [jwt-dev] Why use JWT
> > >
> > > Hi Chris
> > >
> > > Good points.
> > >
> > > Actually I think it's important that "Getting started" is the first
> > >       
> > and
> >     
> > > biggest thing the user sees on the page. I like very much the "New to
> > >       
> > JWT"
> >     
> > > section but it's too small and uncentered for this. But I'm still
> > >       
> > thnking
> >     
> > > about it...
> > >
> > > N&N has gone in the extensive version of the upload page. But like
> > >       
> > you say
> >     
> > > putting a like to the latest version's N&N on the front page could be
> > >       
> > a good
> >     
> > > move, maybe after "Download (update site)" in the Getting started
> > >       
> > section ?
> >     
> > > Finally your 2 points : if you're talking about the left panel,
> > >       
> > you're
> >     
> > > right, I've not yet edited this part.
> > > The main page has already the "Download" and update site links under
> > >       
> > the
> >     
> > > first title.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Marc
> > >
> > > Christian Saad a écrit :
> > >
> > >       
> > > > Hi Marc,
> > > >
> > > > ok, then lets keep it the way it is. With the easily accessible
> > > > navigation on the left hand side I guess this makes very much sense.
> > > > Since there are already "Getting started" and "New to JWT" on the
> > > > sides maybe we could even leave out the getting started section in
> > > >         
> > the
> >     
> > > > middle altogether to prevent redundancy? Is the "News&Noteworthy"
> > > >         
> > page
> >     
> > > > already accessible from the main page? (I can't seem to find it on
> > > > your screenshot)
> > > >
> > > > Just two small notes I would like to hear your opinion about:
> > > >
> > > > - maybe we should switch community and resources on the main page
> > > > because I guess most people will be looking for the downloads first
> > > > - For the same reason I would suggest to move the Eclipse Update
> > > >         
> > site
> >     
> > > > link to the top of the project resources
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >         
> > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-
> > > > >           
> > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> >     
> > > > > Im Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
> > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Mai 2009 18:32
> > > > > An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> > > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [jwt-dev] Why use JWT
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Chris
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for backing it up !
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I beg to differ about the "Components" : I'd rather put
> > > > >           
> > the
> >     
> > > > > demo movie in Getting started, because it gives an idea of what is
> > > > > JWT very quickly and without having to drill much. I think that
> > > > > "Components"
> > > > > is rather an overview of JWT features and therefore better under
> > > > > Documentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm also making good use of "New and noteworthy", removing unused
> > > > > pages, trying to find a better place for all releases / roadmap /
> > > > > project plan...
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Marc
> > > > >
> > > > > Christian Saad a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > Hi Marc,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > > > In my website refactoring, I've put it in "New to JWT", but
> > > > > > >               
> > anyway
> >     
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > this
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > is a great page and should be used so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > > Great, I like that. Makes definitely more sense than for new users
> > > > > > to "Report a bug".
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > > > Maybe it should also be merged with the current FAQ, so it would
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > several sections : Why use JWT, What is JWT, How to install it...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > > Also a very good idea. It will prevent cluttering of the Wiki. I'm
> > > > > > in
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > favor
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > > > In attachment my current ongoing efforts, feedback welcome !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > > Cool, nice work on the download page! I think with this we can get
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > rid of
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > the download page in the wiki?
> > > > > > My suggestion would be to move the overview of JWT's components
> > > > > >             
> > from
> >     
> > > > > >             
> > > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > documentation to the "Getting started" entry (right at the top)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > because it's
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > quite high-level and probably something very interesting at the
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > beginning
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > for a new user.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Chris
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >             
> > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > > Von: jwt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jwt-dev-
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > Im Auftrag von Marc Dutoo
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 29. Mai 2009 16:06
> > > > > > > An: Java Workflow Toolbox
> > > > > > > Betreff: Re: [jwt-dev] Why use JWT
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Chris
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In my website refactoring, I've put it in "New to JWT", but
> > > > > > >               
> > anyway
> >     
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > this
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > is a great page and should be used so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe it should also be merged with the current FAQ, so it would
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > have
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > several sections : Why use JWT, What is JWT, How to install it...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In attachment my current ongoing efforts, feedback welcome !
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Marc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Christian Saad a écrit :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >               
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just remembered that we still have this wiki page lying around
> > > > > > > > dealing with why users should decide to use JWT instead of other
> > > > > > > > BP solutions (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Why_use_JWT). I thought
> > > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >                 
> > > > > it’s
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > > time to link it from somewhere on the main page (on the left
> > > > > > > >                 
> > side
> >     
> > > > > > > > under “Getting started” ?). Would you think this is already the
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >                 
> > > > > right
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           
> > > > > > > > time or should we wait and expand this article a bit?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > >
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