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Re: [jnosql-dev] Move Eclipse JNoSQL forward as a JSR

Hey Werner, please remember several points:

  • They will have weeks to start to talk about the package name, however, the process still not defined yet.
  • The first version of Jakarta EE will release just the Java EE 8
  • The Jakarta EE 9 will release one year after the Jakarta EE be released
  • The Jakarta EE 9 may not include Eclipse JNoSQL as a spec.
  • They can't ignore the project that is already defined as javax.*
  • I really would like to move this project forward
  • The project is already in Eclipse Foundation.

Yes, I sent an email to the Red hat guys and they would like to join us on this spec.






On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:08 PM Werner Keil <werner.keil@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I’m not sure, if this still makes sense now.

 

It is only a matter of time, a few weeks now, before a Jakarta EE spec package Namespace is found or voted on. There are not many options.

Having to move back and forth or spread across two packages over time could irritate possible users.

 

Several committers to Jakarta EE have never contributed to or joined the JCP. Especially now, it is even less likely they would participate or join an EG.

 

Did you or could you ask e.g. Red Hat, if they would rather support JNoSQL in Projects like Hibernate OGM if it was a JSR than eventually graduating into Jakarta EE from where it is now?

 

Red Hat also provides key parts of the Jakarta EE platform, that were not contributed to Jakarta EE and there is no sign, it plans to do in the near future.

 

If the eventual Need to improve CDI or Bean Validation leads to new JSRs for CDI 3 or Bean Validation 3, then and only then I would consider filing a JSR.

Can you ask those at Red Hat in a Position to tell more About it?

 

Werner

 

From: Otávio Gonçalves de Santana
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 20:34
To: jnosql developer discussions
Subject: [jnosql-dev] Move Eclipse JNoSQL forward as a JSR

 

Everyone knows the new process to add new specifications in JakartaEE is not defined and without a date to be defined. We are working on the Eclipse JNoSQL to start the TCK and to support modules to be compliant with Java 9 and above. Therefore, at this moment the project needs either a process like the TCK and also the package definition. As the JakartaEE process is still not ready and JCP is still alive and mature, I would like to move the project forward and submit the JSR. This will allow us to have the "javax.nosql" package just like all the existing specs that I believe won't change the package in JakartaEE.

I would like to study that this weekend.

 

Thoughts?

 

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Otávio Gonçalves de Santana

 

 

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