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Notes from today's Higgins Developers Call
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Attendees
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Alex Amies - IBM
*Paula Austel - IBM
Jeff Broberg CA
Andy Hodgkinson - Novell
*Duane Buss - Novell
*Greg Byrd - NCSU/IBM
*Brian Carrol - Serena
*Tom Doman - Novell
*Valery Kokhan - Parity Ukraine
*David Kuehr-Mclaren - IBM
*Mike McIntosh - IBM
*Tony Nadalin - IBM
Nataraj Nagaratnam - IBM
Dale Olds - Novell
*Uppili Srinivasan - Oracle
*Mary Ruddy - Parity/SocialPhysics
*Markus Sabedello
*Jim Sermersheim - Novell
*George Sanchez - Serena
*Daniel Sanders
Abhi Schelat - IBM
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* Present
Regrets
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Numerous people still in transit back from IIW
Agenda
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1) Successful IIW in Mountain View this week
** OSIS interop event and new capabilities
** HBX and identity selector rationalization
** OSP
2) Configuration component
3) Discovery component
4) IdAS Update
1. Successful IIW in Mountain View this week.
Mary: We had a successful IIW in Mountain View
this week. Many thanks to
the people who worked on making new versions of
the software/ hosted
services available for the show. There were
numerous Higgins sessions
including speed geeking demonstrations on day 1
and a successful OSIS
interop event.
Mary: In preparation for interop event being held
at Catalyst next
month, OSIS held a working interop event at the
show. Multiple Higgins
components were represented:
Tony: We used the Eclipse Higgins STS (that
is now hosted at Eclipse)
with a little IDP wrapper. Also demonstrated
the latest version of the
Java HBX. Previously there had been separate
local and remote version.
Now these have been merged.
Mary: Also the "native" version of the
Higgins Identity selector was
shown (not yet checked in.)
Tony: The interop featured:
*5 identity selectors (two Higgins versions)
*7-9 dip
*11 RP's
Tables will be available soon, pretty good
coverage.
There were a few problems. Mike fixed a few
bugs. Burton is pretty
happy.
Mary: There are a number of action items from the
demonstrations. A lot
of good work was done in preparation for the
event, but there is much
clean-up work to be done. Need to determine what
can be done before the
Burton Interop Event in June, and what will be
done afterwards.
Candidate items include
*Fix a bunch of bugs
*UI - make consistent between Java and Native
identity selectors
*Determine consistent names for these, perhaps
Higgins TBD A/TBD B
Identity Selectors
Tony: Also need to address architecture issues.
Consistency of
functionality between the two offerings.
Need to change the
architecture depending on resources
Tony: Need to have two working calls next week to
work through these
issues:
Mary: Once everyone is back from IIW we can
schedule these.
??? Are the UI issues a product of language
differences? Need to have
same interfaces and presentation.
Tony: I'm all for multiple language implementation
sets. Right now it
looks like you need to have both versions, as they
appear to have
different functionality.
Mary: Also need to work on the packaging.
"HBX" needs to be end user
installable.
Mary: Microsoft posted their updated Open
Specification Promise during
IIW. There are additional updated specifications
now available. It did
not cover the UI.
Tony: There are things that we need that are still
not covered. He will
review in detail.
2. Configuration Component
Greg: Trying to start discussion on the list
and get requirements. Have
a start on that. Needs to be used for
initialization and dynamic
configuration. Settings and persistence not
settled yet.
Mike: Has checked in some stuff this morning.
Greg: Need to know what we want to build before we
build it. How
components related to each other and set of
configuration methods.
Mike: All of the different service elements of STS
implement
configurable components.
Greg: He envisioned the iconfig object. One
difference is in the map.
He was thinking of a separate step to make it
persistent.
David: He made some comments: There need to be
handlers to read/write
from persistent store.
Mike: Type info is more for documentation...
3. Discovery
Jim: Discovery - Does Markus have a list of
questions o gather
requirements?
Markus: No new questions. He put all he
knows in a document.
Jim: So what we all need to do is review the
document. Does it include
a proposal for moving forward?
Markus: Need to get the big picture about
Higgins
Jim: The best thing would be to look at the
architecture wiki page.and
diagram. See which components have a pattern
of interfaces and
providers of interfaces - these need to be
discoverable. Notion of a
provider and implementations that need that
provider interface
Mary: May sometimes want something to be
discoverable and sometimes not
Jim: Ask the component owners. What are the
characteristics they need
with respect to discover. Markus's document
was dated May 7. Paul sent
some corrections to the list. People should
start from Paul's version.
4. Discovery
Jim: Most of update changes are done. He
sent out an email on one
dangling change - on context relationships.
He still needs to put that
in. He is sure that there are CP's that haven't
moved to the latest
version.
Jim: Will let us know when I'm done, and then do a
role call on where
all the other CP's are. Hasn't seen anything
from Jena. JNDI is pretty
close, it is compiling. JSpolicy doesn't compile -
Duane working on it.
OpenID and XMIfile are brought up to standard. All
the dependent
projects working now too.
Jim: Then will work on refactoring packages. This
is a topic for another
phone call as we are out of time. The issue is
that if Jim is making a
big change to IdAS, such as Update, it would take
him a long time to go
through all of his dependencies and fix them. One
model is that in this
case, Jim makes all the changes. But he may not
have the expertise in
all the packages, and it could take him a very
long time. If he just
checks in his changes, then everything is broken.
The other suggestion
is to make packages dependent on a stable jar
file. This is treating
other Higgins projects like external 3rd party
projects. Another
approach is clever use of CVS tags and branches.
Mary: As we move towards V1.0, and milestone 0.9
that focuses on
packaging, we need to start practicing stable
build practices.
Jim: We may need someone to wear a project
management hat to make sure
the right things happen with respect to
refactorings.
Action items
*All: Review Paul's updated version of Markus'
discovery draft and
provide comments
*Mary: Schedule 2 calls for the week of May 21 to
discuss next steps for
HBX and the native identity selector, especially
what can be done before
Catalyst. Once people are back from
Catalyst, they should let the list
know when they are available for these working
calls. If there are
additional items that need to be addressed, let me
know.
*Tony: Itemize needed items not covered by the
latest OSP
*All Component owners review their components with
respect to discovery
needs.
*Topic for another call, general process for
refactoring packages
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