OK I see the RC4 packages on http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index-developer.php
and our "Eclipse IDE for Parallel Application
Developers" with the words "(includes Incubating
components)"
which is accurate, since we included some Linux
Tools components, esp. autotools, that we anticipate our
users will find useful (but that we do not explicitly
require or interface with).
I also see the incubation name in the name of the
downloaded file now e.g.
"eclipse-parallel-indigo-RC4-incubation-macosx-cocoa-x86_64.tar.gz"
CDT's "Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers" also
includes autotools, so why does it not say "(includes
Incubating components)"? Or included in the download
file name.
It seems a rather large indicator (same size font as
name of package) for a minor component of our package.
When you click on the 'Details' link it says at the
top
"An IDE for Parallel Application
Developers. Note that this package includes some incubating
components, as indicated by features with "(Incubation)"
following their name."
The list of features is there but the Linux Tools
features don't have the "(Incubation)" designation
next to them.
So, I don't think this is going to happen (I agree
with Doug that most folks probably don't care) but I
don't want
to scare users away with the rather large Incubation
designation for what is a very minor, and noncritical
(but handy) part of our download.
I think it's confusing and distracting.
If it's there, can it be a smaller font, footnote,
icon or something, and can the details page at least
indicate which components comprise the Incubation
designation?
That said, Kudos to everyone esp. Markus for getting
us and all the other packages this far; we're very proud
to be a part of the Eclipse Packaging Project.
Our primary motivation was to make installation of
PTP less confusing and more straightforward and this has
definitely made a huge impact into the ease of adoption.
We're already feeling the impact in terms of less
explanation to do regarding the sometimes-minefield of
installing eclipse features.
...Beth
Beth Tibbitts
Eclipse Parallel Tools Platform http://eclipse.org/ptp
IBM STG - High Performance Computing Tools
Mailing Address: IBM Corp., 745 West New Circle Road,
Lexington, KY 40511
"Schaefer,
Doug" ---06/10/2011 02:06:40 PM---At the end of the day,
no one really cares whether a package has an incubation
label on it. So yes,
At the end of the day, no one really cares whether a
package has an incubation label on it. So yes, that’s
what we want.
Doug.
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Subject: Re: [epp-dev] EPP Indigo RC4 Packages -
testing
Hmm, but you are all aware that every download that
contains incubating components needs to be marked as
'incubation' (file name, description, ...)? For examples
see the download page and the LinuxTools package. Is this
really what we want?
Regards, Markus
On 10 June 2011 17:59, Schaefer, Doug <Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
+1 for CPP. This package includes the autotools component
from the linux tools which is marked Incubator.
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> http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/indigo/download/20110
> 609-2244
>
> +1 to
20110609-2244_eclipse-linuxtools-indigo-RC4-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz
>
> This package *does* include incubating components.
>
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