OK
I see the RC4 packages on
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/index-developer.php
and our
"Eclipse IDE for Parallel Application Developers" with the
words "(includes Incubating components)"
which is
accurate, since we included some Linux Tools components,
esp. autotools, that we anticipate our users will find
useful (but that we do not explicitly require or interface
with).
I also see the
incubation name in the name of the downloaded file now
e.g.
"eclipse-parallel-indigo-RC4-incubation-macosx-cocoa-x86_64.tar.gz"
CDT's "Eclipse
IDE for C/C++ Developers" also includes autotools, so why
does it not say "(includes Incubating components)"? Or
included in the download file name.
It seems a
rather large indicator (same size font as name of package)
for a minor component of our package.
When you click
on the 'Details' link it says at the top
"An IDE for
Parallel Application Developers. Note that this package
includes some
incubating components, as
indicated by features with "(Incubation)" following their
name."
The list of
features is there but the Linux Tools features don't have
the
"(Incubation)" designation
next to them.
So, I don't
think this is going to happen (I agree with Doug that most
folks probably don't care) but I don't want
to scare users
away with the rather large Incubation designation for what
is a very minor, and noncritical (but handy) part of our
download.
I think it's
confusing and distracting.
If it's there,
can it be a smaller font, footnote, icon or something, and
can the details page at least indicate which components
comprise the Incubation designation?
That said,
Kudos to everyone esp. Markus for getting us and all the
other packages this far; we're very proud to be a part of
the Eclipse Packaging Project.
Our primary
motivation was to make installation of PTP less confusing
and more straightforward and this has definitely made a
huge impact into the ease of adoption.
We're already
feeling the impact in terms of less explanation to do
regarding the sometimes-minefield of installing eclipse
features.
...Beth
Beth Tibbitts
Eclipse Parallel Tools Platform http://eclipse.org/ptp
IBM STG - High Performance Computing Tools
Mailing Address: IBM Corp., 745 West New Circle Road,
Lexington, KY 40511
"Schaefer, Doug" ---06/10/2011 02:06:40 PM---At
the end of the day, no one really cares whether a package
has an incubation label on it. So yes,
At the end of the day, no one really cares
whether a package has an incubation label on it. So yes,
that’s what we want.
Doug.
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Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [epp-dev] EPP Indigo RC4 Packages -
testing
Hmm, but you are all aware that every download that contains
incubating components needs to be marked as 'incubation'
(file name, description, ...)? For examples see the download
page and the LinuxTools package. Is this really what we
want?
Regards, Markus
On 10 June 2011 17:59, Schaefer, Doug <Doug.Schaefer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
+1 for CPP. This package includes the autotools component
from the linux tools which is marked Incubator.
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>
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/indigo/download/20110
> 609-2244
>
> +1 to
20110609-2244_eclipse-linuxtools-indigo-RC4-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz
>
> This package *does* include incubating components.
>
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