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Re: [epp-dev] installers on non-windows platforms
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Silently, I had always been afraid of the windows-like installation
experience on linux and mac. I think the road taken here is best.
+1000
PaScaL
Markus Knauer
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Subject
[epp-dev] installers on non-windows
04/23/2007 05:39 platforms
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Eclipse Packaging
Project
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org>
Hi *,
during the Ganymede Workshop I had some discussions about installers on
non-windows platforms, i.e. Unix (most important flavour is Linux) and Mac
OSX with Andrew from the Linux Distros Project, but I started thinking
about
this issue when I assembled the first package prototype.
First of all: I am on Debian Linux... and I never saw a Windows-like
installer
on that system, nor on any other Linux or Unix that I've used before. An
installer like we are used to have on Windows is nothing that you will find
on systems like this. Instead you have a package manager that handles the
install, update, dependency resolution, and removal of the RPM, DEB,
ebuild, ... packages. These managers are written for multi-user installs,
place the files into the correct directories and keep track of all the
files
that came with this package.
Therefore I don't see the need for an installer on these systems that looks
like a Windows installer. There is nothing that such an installer could
provide as additional service. E.g. if you think of menu entries: They are
different on Gnome/KDE systems and differ from one Linux distribution to
another.
Another important fact is the existence of the Linux Distros project: They
are
responsible for creating such installable packages. IMHO we should
concentrate on working together with them, instead of going into the deep
problems that are involved in creating an installer for that platform on
our
own.
On the other hand, Mac OSX users like to get a 'filesystem image' which
they
can 'install' on their systems by mounting the image. They are also not
used
to get a Windows-like installer.
So far I had no success to build such an image file on my Linux box. Any
help
is welcome as I don't have any experience with the Mac OS.
My conclusion: Try once more to build filesystem images for Mac users, work
with the Linux Distros project, and concentrate on building a reliable
installer that works on Windows.
What are your opinions on that?
Regards
Markus
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