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Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] FEEP Proposals (was: 8-Oct AC Meeting Notes)

All seem to agree that every proposal will be tracked in a separate bug. Whatever the discussion of tags, prefixes, umbrella bugs etc. will be, I just created two bugs to get the discussion started how to leverage FEEP:


Bug 479541: [FEEP] New Project Website for Java Tooling 
Bug 479536: [FEEP] Improve Tooling Support for NullPointerAnalysis


Thank you.
Marcel



P.S.: I’ll adjust my proposal bugs to fit into whatever search-and-filter technique you finally agree on.


https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=479536
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=479541




> Am 10.10.2015 um 08:29 schrieb Daniel Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> Sorry my bad.. My use case was to share *my* tags with others. This allowed me to share a list which could not be modified by others and did not pollute the bug with my plans. This seems to restrictive for our FEEP case, so let's go with the umbrella bug. 
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> Dani 
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> From:        Denis Roy <denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To:        eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> Date:        09.10.2015 20:36 
> Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] 8-Oct AC Meeting Notes 
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> On 09/10/15 02:22 PM, Daniel Megert wrote: 
> Denis, 
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> are you 100% sure? I made a query and shared it. And others were able to see it, Did this change in the recent Bugzilla version? 
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> You can create a query using tags and share it ... but the results of the query will be entirely different from one user to the other.
> 
> See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=453171 where a team used tags but got unexpected results.
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> This is always how I've known Tags to work.
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> Denis
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> Dani 
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> From:        Denis Roy <denis.roy@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To:        eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> Date:        09.10.2015 19:02 
> Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] 8-Oct AC Meeting Notes 
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> On 09/10/15 11:40 AM, Daniel Megert wrote: 
> I assume an example on using tags? 
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> You can set any tags on a bug into the 'Tags' field. Then you create a search query that matches that tag. After that you save the query under a name and share it via 'Saved Searches' preference page. 
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> As Wayne has mentioned, the Bugzilla "Tags" field is not shared and is only used for personal tags.. 
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> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/page.cgi?id=fields.html#tag
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> Denis
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> HTH 
> Dani 
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> From:        Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To:        eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> Date:        09.10.2015 17:30 
> Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] 8-Oct AC Meeting Notes 
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> Sorry to be daft. Can point me at an example?
> 
> Wayne
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> On 09/10/15 11:08 AM, Daniel Megert wrote: 
> He meant bugzilla tags. They can be shared like any other query. The summary field is usually used by components with well-defined tokens, and like Lars, I'd prefer not to add other "tags". 
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> Dani 
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> From:        Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To:        eclipse.org-architecture-council@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> Date:        09.10.2015 16:45 
> Subject:        Re: [eclipse.org-architecture-council] 8-Oct AC Meeting Notes 
> Sent by:        eclipse.org-architecture-council-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx 
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> I'm a little confused about what you mean. Do you mean Bugzilla Tags or prefix tagging a subject line (e.g. "[FEEP] Do something interesting stuff"). I had intended the latter (I've good success with using these for queries).
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> I've never used Bugzilla Tags, but my understanding is that they are connected to the individual (i.e. they're not shared). 
> 
> Wayne
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> On 08/10/15 05:45 PM, Lars Vogel wrote: 
> Wayne, could he use instead of a new prefix a tag? Easier to filter for tags IMHO and we are in platform.ui are using prefixes already to classify our bugs. 
> 
> Best regards, Lars 
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> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> I went to create the umbrella bug and it occurred to me that it might be just as easy to prefix the subject line with "[FEEP]".
> 
> Are there any objections to just doing this rather than open an umbrella bug that will never actually get closed as "FIXED" ?
> 
> Wayne 
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> On 08/10/15 12:05 PM, Oberhuber, Martin wrote:
> Hi all,
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>   
> Notes of today’s meeting are now online:
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> https://wiki.eclipse.org/Architecture_Council/Meetings/October_8_2015
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>   
> Great discussion about how to come up with a good list of priorities for the development funding program.
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> There was a number of interesting possibilities mentioned for “funding-worthy” work items.
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> Wayne’s going to create an Umbrella bug for discussion proposals and hooking dependent bugs for discussion under it.
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> Thanks,
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> Martin
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