Re: [eclipse-dev] [ide-dev] Why we dropped Eclipse in favour of IntelliJ

[John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Whether you do the work in house, or pay
another company to do the work, was unrelated to my point. The difference
is between paying for permission to *use* the software (which doesn't give
you much say in how it gets enhanced), versus paying for particular enhancements
to software that is then free to use. Anyway I think I've taken the thread
a bit off topic here so I won't belabour the point.

John




From:      
 Igor Fedorenko <igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date:      
 09/20/2013 03:04 PM
Subject:    
   Re: [eclipse-dev]
[ide-dev] Why we dropped Eclipse in favour of        IntelliJ
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I don't see any mystery there. Not many companies
have expertise in
Eclipse Platform and building such expertise won't contribute to their
core business. And without such expertise they can't estimate cost of
implementing features and fixing bugs that make their developers
less productive. I won't reroof my house myself for the same reason. I
have no idea how long it will take me to do the job, there is no
certainty the result will be any good, and this experience won't be of
any use during my next job interview (unless I decide to start roofing
business, of course).

--
Regards,
Igor

On 2013-09-20 10:42 AM, John Arthorne wrote:
>  > From: Marcel Bruch <bruch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  > The interesting part is that companies with thousands of
developers
>  > that use JDT would benefit from every single minute their
developers
>  > save with an improved Eclipse. Maybe it shouldn't be a
single
>  > company but an interest group of 5-10 member companies?
Small
>  > companies like ours can't sponsor but we can offer our
services to
>  > help improving things in JDT's infrastructure as part of
a long-term
>  > initiative.
>
> This is a mystery to me too. If a company with 1000+ developers was
> considering switching from Eclipse to a commercial alternative, they
> could instead spend a fraction of that amount directly investing in
the
> tools with a similar gain in productivity. As you say if 5-10 companies
> do this, the effect multiplies greatly. Not only that, it would give
the
> company the expertise and influence to fix the problems or add the
> features that are most important to their own developers. There are
a
> few enlightened big companies like Ericsson, Red Hat, and Pivotal
that
> have been contributing to Platform and JDT recently and I hope others
> catch on. I would claim it doesn't even take a big investment. Some
part
> time contributors in SWT, Platform UI, and JDT are having a noticeable
> impact already.
>
> John
>
>
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